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Old 09-17-2018, 12:23 AM   #16
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I am running -current. Rust is recommended and installed if one uses the default options.

I want the ability to re-compile any packages.
Ed
Every one has specific needs or wishes. But stripping the doc will make unhappy people wanting to actually code in Rust, not jut run the compiler. The current packaging fulfill more use cases than the one what you request.

That's just my opinion. To express it tersely, everyone can get rid of it, but not everyone should be deprived of it.

In this specific case of Rust shipping separately the compiler and its doc could be an option, but I am not willing to start a flame war about splitting packages, so let Pat decide. Anyway it would be preferable then to ship the doc in /extra.

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:36 AM   #17
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Every one has specific needs or wishes. But stripping the doc will make unhappy people wanting to actually code in Rust, not jut run the compiler. The current packaging fulfill more use cases than the one what you request.
You should read the thread before posting, its very possible to make everyone happy. Split the 300 MB of docs into a new package and people who want it can install it, those who don't can blacklist it.
 
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:44 AM   #18
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You should read the thread before posting, its very possible to make everyone happy. Split the 300 MB of docs into a new package and people who want it can install it, those who don't can blacklist it.
Yes my friend, but conversely did you read the last sentence of my post before answering it?

This has somehow been already proposed but I added the suggestion to put the doc package in /extra.

Cheers,

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:49 AM   #19
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Apparently I didn't read the last line correctly... Its just that I thought we moved the past the idea of just removing them entirely since that is not really necessary. This thread makes it seem all so more complicated than it should be.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 08:57 AM   #20
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Well, I admit that my last sentence was poorly worded, let's blame my still bad command of the English language, I'll try to do better next time (as I usually say).
 
Old 09-17-2018, 09:03 AM   #21
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Blame is mutual, I should of read the post better and I'm usually more blunt than I need to be... I have no hard feelings with anyone here.
 
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:17 AM   #22
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I say leave it.
 
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:49 AM   #23
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I have begun to read this blog in its entirety. Here is an entry that speaks to the subject of this thread.

https://www.remembertheusers.com/201...ng-online.html
 
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:42 AM   #24
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I have begun to read this blog in its entirety. Here is an entry that speaks to the subject of this thread.

https://www.remembertheusers.com/201...ng-online.html
I agree that documentation should be available off-line as much as possible. That's what /usr/doc is for in Slackware.

As an aside I much appreciate the gnome-help (aka yelp) application that allows to read documentation in a window of the desktop. I will ship it in next Slint upgrade. For instance in the MATE desktop, just press F1 in mate-terminal, the file manager caja, whatever, to display the associated help topic in a window. From there you can also list all available help topics and search among them. Really handy!

And of course if you upgrade an app you will upgrade the associated help, stored locally and often localized.For instance here:
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didier[/usr/share/help/fr]$ ls -ltr
total 120
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug  2  2016 gucharmap
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug  2  2016 gtk-doc-manual
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 10  2017 zenity
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 19  2017 eom
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 19  2017 mate-user-share
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 13:29 atril
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 14:59 engrampa
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-char-palette
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-drivemount
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-geyes
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-stickynotes-applet
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-trashapplet
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-multiload
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-netspeed-applet
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mateweather
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-battstat
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:06 mate-accessx-status
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:20 mate-calc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 11 17:24 mate-control-center
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 18:51 mate-power-manager
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 19:01 mate-system-monitor
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 19:15 mate-terminal
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 20:57 mate-disk-usage-analyzer
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 20:57 mate-dictionary
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 20:57 mate-search-tool
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 11 20:57 mate-system-log
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul  1 23:09 mate-clock
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul  1 23:09 mate-fish
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul  2 20:54 pluma
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 20 11:46 orca
didier[/usr/share/help/fr]$

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Old 09-17-2018, 04:05 PM   #25
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Just remove it if you don't need it. The PC I am on right now has 3TB of storage available so 300MB is of no concern to me at this time. I can throw in another 1TB drive for around $50 from Amazon or NewEgg. I Guess if storage is expensive for you that might be a problem. I used to have to pick and choose when I did a SlackWare install but that time is long gone for me anyway.
 
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:17 AM   #26
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I'd rather have 300 MB of docs in a vanilla Slackware package than wait a lot to build the Rust package myself on a quad core using the buildscript from SBo, just to be able to compile some tiny thing written in Rust. Not that my opinion matters, but to me this is just a tradeoff.
 
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:11 PM   #27
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what some people not realize might be the impact on update.
300 MB of documentations, I would not update this at all,
remove the old and install the new, the way of checking for changes is sub optimal for this.
or simply decide to stay with the online doc and do not pay for what not used anyway.
not having this option is somehow poor.
as usually, IMHO
 
Old 09-21-2018, 03:23 PM   #28
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Putting the doc in extra makes the most sense to me. (fwiw)
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 04:36 AM   #29
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I keep documentation compressed:
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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.8M Sep 19 22:57 /usr/doc/rust-1.26.2.tar.xz
and package blacklisted.

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