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Old 06-04-2017, 10:28 AM   #1
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Is anyone using a distro of illumos?


There are 12 distros of illumos referenced on their web site.

Has anyone installed any of them and using it happily?

I installed OmniOS on an old machine and briefly experimented with it, maybe a year ago, but I was concerned about the disjointed updates. OmniTI has a repository, and there was a third party repository I added (maybe from SmartOS), plus I installed some packages from pkgsrc. You have to jump around a little to get what you want, but packages from the various sources didn't mesh well together.

I had been toying with the idea of moving my main Linux desktop into a virtual machine hosted by KVM on OmniOS.
 
Old 06-04-2017, 06:49 PM   #2
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I have explored around a few of illumos distro's. Like you I have explored a tad bit in OmniOS, but I didn't make it too far. DilOS looks promising, but it need some work, its nice to have the debian way of installing things, but it doesn't create a alternate boot environment. It also doesn't have a page to search the repository.

Currently the only thing that I use that is illumos is OpenIndiana, as I use it for my home server. Its all right, and it gets the job done. Sure the heck is challenging since I came from a Linux environment, but I say it was well worth the challenge. As well as rewarding.
 
Old 06-16-2017, 03:39 PM   #3
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What is the advantage of running illumos over Solaris? Isn't it just a Solaris clone, but Solaris is free now and you can just download it from the ORACLE website, unless you're using it on a server that's making a lot of money.
 
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What is the advantage of running illumos over Solaris?
I'm totally outside the Solaris world, though I've always been interested. Do you totally trust Oracle?

When Sun released OpenSolaris I was delighted. I love Linux and the competition among distros, but I figured having competition from a different strong platform with it's own zealot followers would only make the free software world stronger. But what did Oracle do? They swallowed it whole and slammed the door shut.

I haven't even followed what's going on with Solaris, but it sounds like it's free as in beer but not free as in freedom. (Right?) If it becomes real popular, is Oracle obligated to keep it free? And since it's free, are they motivated to keep the quality up? Can skilled user/developers improve the product and submit changes? (Is the source available?)

My understanding is that illumos reproduces the Solaris world, but without Oracle's input, Oracle's control or Oracle's trademarks. Illumos is free just like Linux.

That seems like a big advantage.
 
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I'm totally outside the Solaris world, though I've always been interested. Do you totally trust Oracle?

When Sun released OpenSolaris I was delighted. I love Linux and the competition among distros, but I figured having competition from a different strong platform with it's own zealot followers would only make the free software world stronger. But what did Oracle do? They swallowed it whole and slammed the door shut.

I haven't even followed what's going on with Solaris, but it sounds like it's free as in beer but not free as in freedom. (Right?) If it becomes real popular, is Oracle obligated to keep it free? And since it's free, are they motivated to keep the quality up? Can skilled user/developers improve the product and submit changes? (Is the source available?)

My understanding is that illumos reproduces the Solaris world, but without Oracle's input, Oracle's control or Oracle's trademarks. Illumos is free just like Linux.

That seems like a big advantage.
Solaris is the first UNIX flavor I ever learned, so it has a special place in my heart, although Mac OS X does too since as far as the desktop goes, Apple has always been my choice.

As far as the rights to Solaris goes, you can use Solaris 11.3 for personal use. I haven't really researched licensing fees if you use it for a commercial website, but if you're making tons of money off the site hosted by Solaris you're probably SUPPOSED to pay ORACLE some type of fee, but I don't know what it is. Of course, almost anything you develop in Solaris is easily portable to a free UNIX distribution, so you can get around this. So you could develop in Solaris then move to FreeBSD or Linux for production. Of course, if you're just playing around with UNIX, there's no reason you can't just use Solaris for free.

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