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Old 12-08-2018, 12:45 AM   #31
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When I fly over the whole thread until this point, I suspect there are two kinds of people out there: Those who observe (memory usage) and those who do stuff (which might or might not use memory).

My own view on this matter:
  • The numbers do not express a quality, like in “bad” or “good”. Never! Their importance is where and when they allow comparisons and basic arithmetic. They are completely unimportant in any other context. And even the arithmetic does not lead to a situation, where the result is necessarily “bad” or “good”. This is as true for money and exchanges of money as it is for memory usage.
  • I said, it was my own view on the matter, I am not a politician, nor chief of “marketing research and public relations” or something.
  • Oh My God !! Your software uses up 80% of the system ressources! Do something!
    My Boss: “DARN! We will see, how we can best make use of the remaining 20% in the next release! Promised!

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Old 12-08-2018, 05:18 AM   #32
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This is an interesting thread.. I have no answer though.
 
Old 12-08-2018, 02:54 PM   #33
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Are these the measurements of these programs in memory?
Yes, at least as reported by Gnome system monitor.
 
Old 12-08-2018, 03:12 PM   #34
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Are you really going to expect KDE/MATE/Cinnamon/etc to run smoothly on a old machine with little RAM?
Well, maybe not really, but "back in the day" you could take a machine that basically was ready for the scraps and would be hopeless with Windows XP, whack Ubuntu (or something similar) on to it and it would be a perfectly good, responsive machine.
 
Old 12-08-2018, 03:45 PM   #35
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Mostly agree, but: OOM and OOM-like situations are a disaster.
Then the answer is have an insane amount and you'll never run out 32GB and moving to 64GB on this box, 96GB on my build server I call it future-proofing. I can build 800 FreeBSD ports (6 at a time) on this current machine and the max ram I use is around 13 GB. Overkill, yes. In my 20+ years of IT, the only OOM situation I have ever been in was running WoW on a Mac Pro with 24GB RAM. No clue why, maybe WoW bug.
 
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It's a simple matter to use xbindkeys to do this.
glad you mentioned it.
you should factor in all those external utilities if you compare to a windowmanager that has them built in.

don't get me wrong, i think it's great to have this modular approach, and i have nothing about superminimal windowmanagers, but the comparison tables suck.
 
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Buy more ram if you need more...not sure what else to say about that.
but in Linux you still have choices if that isn't an option.

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Well, maybe not really, but "back in the day" you could take a machine that basically was ready for the scraps and would be hopeless with Windows XP, whack Ubuntu (or something similar) on to it and it would be a perfectly good, responsive machine.
there's your problem right there:
Ubuntu isn't that distro anymore.
nowadays, people typically "whack" antiX on an old machine, and it would be a perfectly good, responsive machine.

facit: Linux has improved since then, Ubuntu has just grown.
 
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