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these are operating systems.
the list of supported devices is usually very short, and it's debatable whether these devices then are full gnu/linux phones.
hence my question.
actually, we fell into the old trap: android is linux. duh.
so, my question should've been: is there a full gnu/linux phone? these are operating systems.
the list of supported devices is usually very short, and it's debatable whether these devices then are full gnu/linux phones.
hence my question.
1. well I have to agree that catch 22 Linux / android got me too.
2. I am not going out and buying an "Linux" Phone to see. Though buying a fully blown Linux desktop OS on a phone then wanting to install Android is just, well to me, silly. Though I am still waiting for one brain to come up with a means to install full blown Linux/GNU on a tablet, any Tablet.
While the complete Android system is quite distinct and different from a computer system using a Linux kernel and a combination of GNU and BSD (Berkeley Standard Distribution) - a freely available system of software entirely written, but loosely based on the original AT&T Unix system, both Android and things loosely called "Linux" both use Linux system kernels. Each Android system takes a particular release of Android software, which includes a specific release of mobile modules from the Linux kernel, and then vendors have the freedom to modify the software to suit their specific needs.
To describe this in shorter, simpler terms:
* Android systems contain Linux kernel software.
* The remainder of Android and Linux system software is generally quite different.
Whether it makes sense to switch from one to the other depends on what you're starting with.
Linux phones have been produced, but they have never become popular (and the few I've seen were quite expensive compared to Android phones), while Linux desktop and laptop systems are generally LESS expensive (especially used) because there is no incremental cost for Linux software unless bundled with the product you purchase.
so you mean there are phones that have been created by Linux? I really did not know But personally I do not think I could go from Android to Linux (even though I've never tried them)
No, Linux is just a kernel, it does not create hardware. People who USE linux create things, but that is a different kettle of fish.
Android is one of the versions of the Linux kernel modified and with added drivers to support the cell phone platforms. Arguably it was the first (I have NOT checked the timeline on this) but there is nothing that forces it to be the ONLY version modified for cell phone use. A significant part of the cell phone experience results less from the kernel than from the modules, drivers, and applications appended.
If someone has done the search and research required to discover and compare a large percentage of the cell phone modification versions I would appreciate a link or pointer. It occurs to me that I have not looked into the state of these in a while, and it brings up interesting questions.
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