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Old 07-01-2022, 06:32 AM   #1
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Question Will this laptop work well with Linux: HP Elitebook 840 g9


Hi guys, I'm in the market to buy a new laptop. I'm looking at the latest HP Elitebooks, specifically the HP Elitebook 840 G9.
This is a very modern laptop.
I've had a look at the specs and from what I can tell, as long as my distro uses a very recent kernel it should be compatible with GNU/Linux.

Before I commit to the purchase, I just wanted to confirm with those of you who have more knowledge, if this laptop would work well with Linux.

Here is the laptop in question.

https://www.laptop6.com/laptops/hp/e...g9-(2022)-9903

Intel i5-1250P vPro
Intel Iris X Graphics ( 4B853AV )
14" diagonal WUXGA display
Intel AX211 Wi-Fi 6E

I have not had a lot of luck with laptops lasting as long as I'd expect, the only exception being a 2010 Macbook Pro, (probably because I didn't use it much).
I want this laptop to be the one. It needs to last past six years. This is an investment. I have had two Thinkpad motherboards fail on me, and one Latitude breaking design failure.
With that in mind I know heat is big killer to computers. In the configuration I list, I have chosen the i5 processor, but I could get the i7 if it's the better option (price is not a concern). I am looking at the i5 because of the lower base frequency which will pull in less power and there-for create less heat (please correct me if I'm wrong, I am only repeating what I've read).
I don't game. Will the i5 be the best choice to future proof the laptop (considering the longevity of the hardware) or do you think the heat difference will be negligible and I should opt for the more powerful i7-1280p?


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Old 07-01-2022, 08:07 AM   #2
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Why so new a device?

Get one a couple of years old and there'll be more information about how reliable they are, and less potential compatibility issues.

If you really want that device, well there are no Elitebook 840 G9 probes yet at linux-hardware.org but there are several G8 probes - maybe check them and compare the hardware; some parts will have changed but some probably stay the same, and you can try searching individual parts too.

 
Old 07-01-2022, 12:36 PM   #3
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Intel AX211 Wi-Fi 6E
will require a very new or recent kernel and may not work during or after the installation of your favorite distro.
 
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Old 07-01-2022, 12:53 PM   #4
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A USB wifi stick could be a temporary solution, if that is all that doesn't work, (personally, I don't know if the graphics are supported yet, or not).
 
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Old 07-01-2022, 01:53 PM   #5
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I have a Framework laptop with a Iris GPU, 11 Gen Intel and WiFi 6 adapter. The distributions that have been verified to work are the latest Fedora, Manjaro, POP!_OS and Ubuntu. The forum users mention Arch, OpenSuSe Tumbleweed and kali but I don't how well they work.

With similar hardware I would expect as posted you need to run a recent version. It also depends if you want it run something that works completely out of the box or don't mind fiddling around a bit or live with a few "annoyances" until more distributions hopefully catch up.

Otherwise I agree that consider buying an older laptop.
 
Old 07-06-2022, 06:30 PM   #6
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Looking at the i5 and i7 versions of that machine for the minor difference in performance the price difference is significant.

As already stated the older hardware with known support would be a better choice unless you like to fiddle with making newer hardware work. Slightly older hardware also means lower prices for similar performance. You choose for yourself there.
 
Old 07-06-2022, 08:57 PM   #7
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I'd avoid HP. Since Linux is almost four times as efficient as Windows in terms of both memory and CPU, and it's not possible for the volunteer developers to keep up with all the millions of new devices (driver) inside laptops, I would get a Dell that's a few years old. Ideally from someone who would let you take time to try it out: boot your favorite live distro and see what devices work and which devices don't. Unless you're a device driver developer with lots of free time, it's really sad to see all the people that struggle with less common devices!!!
 
Old 07-06-2022, 09:34 PM   #8
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laptops are junky like that sometimes. truth be told laptops tend to use standardized parts, laptop manufactures have shared source of suppliers.
For example I replaced my Acer Aspire 720pHD screen with a 1080p FHD screen. took less than 30 minutes. same laptop I installed a 2.5" SSD in and it perked up beautifully. memory upgraded from 8gb to 32gb. wifi adapter was m.2 or NGFF intel interface for wifi adapters some desktop motherboards have m.2 for SSD other have accessory m.2 drive for wifi adapter. 1 screw, out with a crappy atheros wifi adapter. in with intel ax200 wifi 6 adapter. which sadly works in windows though is headache in linux but I got it figured out for kernel to use. 5.4.x. also have a intel 7265D m.2 adapter that works with all kernels and wincrap. but doesnt support mu-mimo but supports 876mbps on 5ghz channel and 300mbps on 2.5ghz.

new laptops using m.2 NVME SSD drives and year or 2 old laptops may have SSD m.2 interface for upgradability. lots of laptops with 8gb ram and 5xxgb hd or ssd. check upgradability you could find or have a diamond in the rough.

I just got bleeding edge desktop and everything in it works. oddly it has a intel ax200 wifi 6 adapter built into motherboard that likes more kernels than my laptop. been researching why.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 03:38 PM   #9
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If you don't game then you surely don't need the i7 and a laptop with a better graphics chip.
I purchased an HP EliteBook 840 G4 refurbished 2 years ago for some $250. It's a champ.
Very rugged, a bit on the heavy side, but designed for commercial use so should last me many years.
Has 8GB RAM, i5 and 240GB SSD. Use it with Manjaro - works fast and is very reliable.

I suspect you don't really need the latest and greatest....
 
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:56 PM   #10
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Quote:
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If you don't game then you surely don't need the i7 and a laptop with a better graphics chip.
I purchased an HP EliteBook 840 G4 refurbished 2 years ago for some $250. It's a champ.
Very rugged, a bit on the heavy side, but designed for commercial use so should last me many years.
Has 8GB RAM, i5 and 240GB SSD. Use it with Manjaro - works fast and is very reliable.

I suspect you don't really need the latest and greatest....
I agree, this is the way to go...

I bought a refurbished Thinkpad T430 for 280 Euros 18 months ago. i5, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD. Runs Slackware 15.0 -current lightning fast and no problems.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 07:38 PM   #11
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HP tends to offer products with linux on it and they tend to be easy to install linux on. A specific business class model that also is offered in Suse or RH would be best.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 12:01 AM   #12
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I have an installation of Linux Mint 20 on an HP Elitebook 850 G2 for more than six months now and it has been running without any problems.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 10:26 PM   #13
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There are many, many versions (Distros) of Linux, most will work, but some might not. I recently bought a new Laptop and tried out 8 nor 9 different Distros. Two of them didn't work, but all the others did so I finally settled in with one Distro that I liked. It only cost me time. Your best bet would be Ubuntu or one of the various versions of Ubuntu. My opinion.

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Old 08-13-2022, 09:30 AM   #14
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I wrote a long post in reply to this thread explaining why I wanted the Elitebook 840 G9, and then selected a users post helpful and everything i typed was deleted. :-(

Long story short, I bought the HP Elitebook 840 G9.
On Linux 5.19 it's running good except for speakers.
Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition

Headphones work with SOF-firmware installed but still waiting for driver refinements to get working speakers. Or at least I presume that's the case.
Maybe there's a working solution but after hours of searching and trying various things I haven't found any that work.

Oh yeah, I don't care about these so I didn't think about them originally but camera has weird lines though it (Only tested in Cheese). Haven't tried fingerprint reader or Microphone.
 
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Old 11-13-2022, 12:49 AM   #15
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Hi everyone, I just updated my kernel. As of Linux 6.08, with SOF firmware installed, sound now works with the Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition speakers.
I have not tested this without SOF firmware.
 
  


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