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Old 06-23-2018, 12:29 PM   #1
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.iso booting without CD or flash


I would like to boot from a mounted iso w/o a flash drive or cd. Is that possible?
 
Old 06-23-2018, 12:50 PM   #2
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I would like to boot from a mounted iso w/o a flash drive or cd. Is that possible?
I think some more information would really help here;

* When you say "mounted", exactly what do you mean by that ?
* Do you mean from a network location of some description ?
* I take it you mean a Linux distribution of some description ? If so, which one ?
 
Old 06-23-2018, 01:07 PM   #3
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I'm in win10 on an atom processor 2n1. Would like to use the existing mounting ability for win10 to install a puppy distro (It's a 32 bit rig). I have it on the 2n1 but could put it on my phone if needed
 
Old 06-23-2018, 01:12 PM   #4
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I'm in win10 on an atom processor 2n1. Would like to use the existing mounting ability for win10 to install a puppy distro (It's a 32 bit rig). I have it on the 2n1 but could put it on my phone if needed
I'm still confused as to what exactly you mean by "existing mounting ability for win10" ?

Can you please just be clear and concise as to exactly what you are referring to? If you're not sure how to explain it, then you can provide a link if you wish.

EDIT: Just done a Google search and is this what you mean ?

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Old 06-23-2018, 01:37 PM   #5
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No, it won't work. You can't install Linux from within Windows, unless you use a virtual machine, i.e. virtualbox.
 
Old 06-23-2018, 01:47 PM   #6
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No, it won't work. You can't install Linux from within Windows, unless you use a virtual machine, i.e. virtualbox.
Not so sure about that, you may want to have a look at this: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9142...ubi-installer/
 
Old 06-23-2018, 02:12 PM   #7
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wubi is not supported anymore nor provided since version 13 and as far as I know does not work with Windows 8 or 10.

You might try the fork called wubiuefi but I have no idea how well works.

https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/

While wubi is specific to installing Ubuntu within Windows as far as I know it is not a generic tool to boot ISO files.

Windows 10 file browser has the capability to open ISO files.

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Old 06-23-2018, 02:25 PM   #8
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For Puppy

http://shino.pos.to/linux/lupq/puppydualboot.html

UEFI Puppies I know of are:

Tahr64 6.0.6:- http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux...6.0.6-uefi.iso



XenialPup64 7.0.8.5:- http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux...0.8.5-uefi.iso



FatDog 710:- http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/iso/Fatdog64-710.iso

Not sure if this will work or not. Since I am not sure how the OP is rolling.
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No, it won't work. You can't install Linux from within Windows, unless you use a virtual machine, i.e. virtualbox.
I've installed Puppy inside of Windows 7 before though.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

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Old 06-23-2018, 03:44 PM   #9
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You might be able to do a "frugal" install to your windows partition using unetbootin. That works with Ubuntu and some other common Linux systems. I don't know that it will work with Puppy. Basically, what it does is create a 'live' system on the partition which you can then boot from the windows bootloader. You would see a "unetbootin" option in your windows boot menu. I don't know if you have an EFI system or if it would work with EFI. The link below is to the unetbootin page explaining HD/Frugal installs.

https://github.com/unetbootin/unetbo...i/installmodes

Booting a Linux iso from Grub 2 is a very simple process. I don't know any other methods than those suggested above, not sure the windows option suggested will work on a non-windows iso and wubi has definitely not been supported for years and its use is discourage by Canonical/Ubuntu which was the only system that used it.

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:31 PM   #10
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...I don't know any other methods than those suggested above, not sure the windows option suggested will work on a non-windows iso...
Not meaning to be rude to you yancek and while I've never tried it myself; the link rokytnji posted clearly states the following:

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LICK is versatile: it can be run on almost any version of Windows, from Windows 95 to Windows 10, on BIOS or UEFI, with or without secure boot.
So based on that, I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work with Puppy Linux (or Windows 10). But I make no claim as to how well it works or otherwise.

For the sake of clarity; I wasn't trying to suggest that wubi would work with Puppy Linux - my point was only that it's incorrect AFAICS to say that Linux generally speaking, cannot be installed from Windows (which-ever version of we may be talking about and whether in part or full). I'm sorry to anyone that may have been confused by my post #6, as that was *not* my intention. My apologies once again.

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Old 06-23-2018, 05:13 PM   #11
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Post number 4s link is what I was talking about. Thanks for the advice guys.
 
Old 06-23-2018, 06:18 PM   #12
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I tried LICK but I am apparently completely lost. It ran, selected the distro, but nothing on reboot
 
Old 06-23-2018, 07:27 PM   #13
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Not meaning to be rude to you yancek and while I've never tried it myself; the link rokytnji posted clearly states the following:
I was actually referring to the link you posted in post 4 which seems to deal specifically with mounting an iso in windows, apparently to install software.

I would think one of the methods to do a frugal install would work but I haven't used Puppy in years. The only methods I am familiar with to boot and install a Linux system from windows is wubi which as far as I know is limited to Ubuntu and unetbootin but I believe Puppy had a method to do a frugal install. Whether it would then boot and be able to install, I don't recall.

Booting any Linux, even installed to a partition on a hard drive from windows is possible but very convoluted to say the least.
 
Old 06-23-2018, 08:25 PM   #14
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Not so sure about that, you may want to have a look at this: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9142...ubi-installer/
Well, I'll be! It is possible after all! But that still doesn't solve the problem of no optical disk and no flash drive. Although I think with third party software that you can mount an iso image in Windows.

I stand corrected!

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Old 06-24-2018, 05:28 AM   #15
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Using WUBI isn't going to help the OP at all as it is specific to Ubuntu and s/he wants to install Puppy. Additionally, WUBI isn't and hasn't been supported for years and the wubi guide (link below) specifically states that it is not expected to work with windows 8 or 10.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

Unetbootin also worked, at least with Ubuntu on Legacy systems installing it inside a windows partition. Whether it would work on a UEFI system I don't know.
 
  


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