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polarbear20000 05-23-2009 11:37 PM

Question on 5.0
 
Okay - question on upcoming 5.0. I only ask since I don't really do much on the "main" forums, just come here first. :wink:

I've noticed from release to release, that certain things disappear. That's normal for distributions, I suppose, but should a certain thing I like disappear, it gets aggravating.

Plus, they are usually things that have huge download sizes, and I'm only on dial-up.

Question follows: will certain apps like Yakuake or Audacity appear in 5.0, or will I need to download them?

Question ends - have a great day.

veerain 05-24-2009 04:52 AM

You can find the download at rpm find. Or you can install it yourself.

joost_op 05-25-2009 03:06 AM

@polarbear20000

Yeah Yakuake should be there i agree. (On the K edition that is).
We are still working out the plan/branch.

@contusion
You have any idea how Sabayon/Gentoo works? No you don't.

xlnagla 05-25-2009 06:04 PM

To clarify a bit for the sake of those new to Sabayon/Gentoo distributions on why contusion's advice on finding rpms, generally sound across linux distros, won't work for Sabayon/Gentoo.

One of the cool things about gentoo is the way it manages and installs packages - it uses a ports system. In other words, instead of downloading pre-compiled binary rpms or debs and installing them automatically, gentoo package managers will download source code and compile it, customizing it based on each user's preferences as specified in configuration files. It's really the ultimate way to achieve complete customization of your system, but is a tad more labor-intensive, or at least attention-requiring, than your average binary package manager. This also means that though you can theoretically use rpms on gentoo, it's highly discouraged and takes a good deal of work to set up.

Sabayon brings something new and exciting to its gentoo base, which is our package manager entropy. This package manager is indeed binary-based, which basically means that we pre-compile gentoo packages on our servers and make them available to you through the entropy package management software. entropy is completely compatible with portage, but we still don't recommend mixing the two, due to intricacies of CFLAGS and USE flags in gentoo.

again, no rpms or debs anywhere in entropy.

Hope this clears up any potential questions.

~xlnagla

azteka22 06-14-2009 10:11 PM

so then how can you download/install a an rpm package or a deb pacakage if its not in the gentoo or Portage repositories?

xlnagla 06-21-2009 05:48 PM

well, first off, that never happens. You'll always find an ebuild somewhere in portage's overlays if you look hard enough for it.

But, if for some strange reason it does happen, all you need to do is download the source code and run, as root,

./configure && make install && install

and you'll have the package properly installed. This is NOT the preferred method, but will certainly work if there is no other way to find your package.

~xlnagla

azteka22 06-22-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlnagla (Post 3581720)
well, first off, that never happens. You'll always find an ebuild somewhere in portage's overlays if you look hard enough for it.

But, if for some strange reason it does happen, all you need to do is download the source code and run, as root,

./configure && make install && install

and you'll have the package properly installed. This is NOT the preferred method, but will certainly work if there is no other way to find your package.

~xlnagla

aa ok.. thank you

polarbear20000 06-22-2009 02:26 PM

And thank you for the refresher on compiling from source - it was going to be my next dumb question ;)

Absent-mindedness is terrible. . . .

xlnagla 06-23-2009 10:16 PM

self-fail.

./configure && make && make install

I was tired.

~xlnagla


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