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Old 12-12-2013, 04:14 PM   #1
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Angry RHEL7 is out, my first impression is awful


AWFUL,

I have been using RHEL/Centos since 2008, I must say I like RHEL5, RHEL6 is less preferred, and now the RHEL7, I got it and installed onto my Windows 7 workstation using VMWare Workstation, it is extremely slow, also the resolution is so outrageous, the window is so big, the menus, and everything else out of the Monitor (could not adjust the zoom, nor access anything), which makes it impossible to do anything.

I also dislike the GNOME 3, I am perfectly fine with the old Desktop, it is very functional!
 
Old 12-12-2013, 04:45 PM   #2
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AWFUL,
I have been using RHEL/Centos since 2008, I must say I like RHEL5, RHEL6 is less preferred, and now the RHEL7, I got it and installed onto my Windows 7 workstation using VMWare Workstation, it is extremely slow, also the resolution is so outrageous, the window is so big, the menus, and everything else out of the Monitor (could not adjust the zoom, nor access anything), which makes it impossible to do anything.

I also dislike the GNOME 3, I am perfectly fine with the old Desktop, it is very functional!
No, RHEL7 is NOT out yet...it's still in beta testing. Beta testing = unresolved issues. And you're loading an operating system designed for back-room servers onto a virtual machine on top of Windows...none of that is going to make it work quickly and respond well, not to mention the fact that the machine doesn't have 'real' hardware (like a MONITOR) to work with. None of the issues you're describing are particularly surprising.

And if you don't like Gnome 3...don't use it. You can load any other desktop environment you want.
 
Old 12-12-2013, 04:50 PM   #3
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No, RHEL7 is NOT out yet...it's still in beta testing. Beta testing = unresolved issues. And you're loading an operating system designed for back-room servers onto a virtual machine on top of Windows...none of that is going to make it work quickly and respond well, not to mention the fact that the machine doesn't have 'real' hardware (like a MONITOR) to work with. None of the issues you're describing are particularly surprising.

And if you don't like Gnome 3...don't use it. You can load any other desktop environment you want.
Yes, I know it is beta, but other beta Linux seems to work perfectly fine (as smooth as real machine) on my VMWare Workstation except recent Ubuntu, which is also sluggish.
For the next 2 weeks, I will evaluate it under different conditions.
 
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #4
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Thanks for the review, I am dying to get home from work and take RHEL7 beta for a test drive. Until then, I have to live vicariously through other reviews from people like you!

Curious if you checked whether or not RHEL7 is a supported VMWare Guest OS before writing your rant?

http://www.vmware.com/resources/comp...egory=software

Hmmm, I see that it is NOT supported, possibly because it was released as beta 24 hours ago so how could the VMWare people possibly have had time to make their software compatible with it??

On a constructive note while I am not a VMWare user, I do have extensive experience with VirtualBox. The symptoms you are describing are indicative of what one would see in VirtualBox if the "guest additions" are not installed. So possibly your next step would be to figure out what is the VMWare equivalent of guest additions, so that your guest OS (RHEL7 beta) can display the correct resolution and so forth.

Oh and by the way, you're not locked into Gnome 3... you can install KDE, Xfce, whatever you like... just not Gnome 2, because Gnome 2 is dead and gone. Red Hat is not going to use an obsolete abandonware desktop environment in their upcoming flagship product, that would just be stupid. RHEL6 with Gnome 2 will be supported through 2020 so no big deal.
 
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Thanks for the review, I am dying to get home from work and take RHEL7 beta for a test drive. Until then, I have to live vicariously through other reviews from people like you!

Curious if you checked whether or not RHEL7 is a supported VMWare Guest OS before writing your rant?

http://www.vmware.com/resources/comp...egory=software

Hmmm, I see that it is NOT supported, possibly because it was released as beta 24 hours ago so how could the VMWare people possibly have had time to make their software compatible with it??

On a constructive note while I am not a VMWare user, I do have extensive experience with VirtualBox. The symptoms you are describing are indicative of what one would see in VirtualBox if the "guest additions" are not installed. So possibly your next step would be to figure out what is the VMWare equivalent of guest additions, so that your guest OS (RHEL7 beta) can display the correct resolution and so forth.

Oh and by the way, you're not locked into Gnome 3... you can install KDE, Xfce, whatever you like... just not Gnome 2, because Gnome 2 is dead and gone. Red Hat is not going to use an obsolete abandonware desktop environment in their upcoming flagship product, that would just be stupid. RHEL6 with Gnome 2 will be supported through 2020 so no big deal.

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Thanks for your constructive comments, the VMWare compatibility could be an issue, I am trying other configs and will report my experience over the weekend!
 
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