Has satellite monitoring been improved over the years?
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Has satellite monitoring been improved over the years?
I read a post on here that the redhat network satellite monitoring module was bad to say the least..i see its still available, has it been improved a great deal over the years ? (The post was 3-4 years old)
The post also said that redhat would be removing this product which clearly has not happened yet so i though that they may have been improving it over the years instead.. anyone? I'd like another surveillance tool of course, but politics and policy makes it difficult to get even the most necessary tools here..
I read a post on here that the redhat network satellite monitoring module was bad to say the least..i see its still available, has it been improved a great deal over the years ? (The post was 3-4 years old)
Yes, it has improved.
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The post also said that redhat would be removing this product which clearly has not happened yet so i though that they may have been improving it over the years instead.. anyone? I'd like another surveillance tool of course, but politics and policy makes it difficult to get even the most necessary tools here..
Since you don't say where "here" is, we can't tell you much. Also, be aware that if you live in a country where Red Hat is not available for export, we can't help you. LQ Rules about region-restriction circumvention are pretty clear. Despite how anyone feels about censorship/blocking/DRM, it puts LQ in a bad spot if we assist.
Your best option is to call Red Hat sales/support for your questions about Red Hat. If you're not PAYING FOR RHEL, then don't use it, and use CentOS instead, with spacewalk.
Since you don't say where "here" is, we can't tell you much. Also, be aware that if you live in a country where Red Hat is not available for export, we can't help you. LQ Rules about region-restriction circumvention are pretty clear. Despite how anyone feels about censorship/blocking/DRM, it puts LQ in a bad spot if we assist.
Your best option is to call Red Hat sales/support for your questions about Red Hat. If you're not PAYING FOR RHEL, then don't use it, and use CentOS instead, with spacewalk.
Thank you for using your time trying to answer my question, but what on earth are you taking about when you mention region-restriction circumvention ? Where in the post did i ever mention anything about that ? Of course we have a fully paid subscription for all services, premium in fact. Assuming im a pirate and using this illegal in a company is ridicolous, you shouldnt just assume that people are pirating software, at least not this kind of software, even though many people are pirating other types of software. I take offence of your comment. Did you really think that i was going to use this for free or at home or something ? The software is for corporations so i would think that it was implied. The policy and politics i was refering to was inside the compant i work for and did not relate to redhat.
My question was, if Red Hat Satellite Monitoring was improved enough over the years that it been getting good to use since the other posts mentioned that it was beyond poor.
Thank you for using your time trying to answer my question, but what on earth are you taking about when you mention region-restriction circumvention ? Where in the post did i ever mention anything about that ?
You certainly hinted at such a possibility when you said "but politics and policy makes it difficult to get even the most necessary tools here..". You still don't say where "here" is.
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Of course we have a fully paid subscription for all services, premium in fact. Assuming im a pirate and using this illegal in a company is ridicolous, you shouldnt just assume that people are pirating software, at least not this kind of software, even though many people are pirating other types of software. I take offence of your comment. Did you really think that i was going to use this for free or at home or something ? The software is for corporations so i would think that it was implied. The policy and politics i was refering to was inside the compant i work for and did not relate to redhat.
And since you didn't say any of that, and still really don't, we can't assume. And you really need to calm down and re-read my original post. I said "Also, be aware that if you live in a country where Red Hat is not available for export, we can't help you. LQ Rules about region-restriction circumvention are pretty clear. Despite how anyone feels about censorship/blocking/DRM, it puts LQ in a bad spot if we assist." Please show me where I assumed anything, called you anything, or said you were stealing. I said IF you are in such a spot (since you didn't and still haven't said), that it would be difficult to help, because of LQ Rules, no matter what our personal feeling are.
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My question was, if Red Hat Satellite Monitoring was improved enough over the years that it been getting good to use since the other posts mentioned that it was beyond poor.
And the answer was and still is, "yes"...it has improved much.
Since you don't say when or even IF you've ever used it, or what version you tried, or what exactly you're looking for/missing, we can't tell you much, can we?? If you compare version 1 to version 20 of a particular software package, the features will be MUCH more robust...not so much between version 19.2 and 20, now will they?
You certainly hinted at such a possibility when you said "but politics and policy makes it difficult to get even the most necessary tools here..". You still don't say where "here" is.
And since you didn't say any of that, and still really don't, we can't assume. And you really need to calm down and re-read my original post. I said "Also, be aware that if you live in a country where Red Hat is not available for export, we can't help you. LQ Rules about region-restriction circumvention are pretty clear. Despite how anyone feels about censorship/blocking/DRM, it puts LQ in a bad spot if we assist." Please show me where I assumed anything, called you anything, or said you were stealing. I said IF you are in such a spot (since you didn't and still haven't said), that it would be difficult to help, because of LQ Rules, no matter what our personal feeling are.
And the answer was and still is, "yes"...it has improved much.
Since you don't say when or even IF you've ever used it, or what version you tried, or what exactly you're looking for/missing, we can't tell you much, can we?? If you compare version 1 to version 20 of a particular software package, the features will be MUCH more robust...not so much between version 19.2 and 20, now will they?
Thats enough, i dont need any more lectures from you. If you read my post you will know what the case is, its a simple question really, has it imporved enought for it to be attractive to be used or not and people who have worked with that would know. If you dont know or are only going to write about everything else then feel free to answer another thread instead of this one. I wont respond to you anymore, its a waste of time if you dont provide an answer. I do appericiate you taking the time to try to answer but not if you are going to respond like a 5 year old.
Thats enough, i dont need any more lectures from you. If you read my post you will know what the case is, its a simple question really, has it imporved enought for it to be attractive to be used or not and people who have worked with that would know. If you dont know or are only going to write about everything else then feel free to answer another thread instead of this one. I wont respond to you anymore, its a waste of time if you dont provide an answer. I do appericiate you taking the time to try to answer but not if you are going to respond like a 5 year old.
The question was answered (twice so far). Again, you provide no context, so how do you expect anyone to be able to answer? You ask "has it improved enough for it to be attractive"...what does that mean? Attractive HOW? Again, WHAT, SPECIFICALLY are you looking for???
Since you're a 'premium' RHEL support customer, contact them and they can assist you with a complete list of features, and probably a working 90 day demo for free. Judge for yourself.
Be inviting, lenient and friendly always, both of you.
Please do not assume nefarious activity but base your opinion on facts.
If unsure ask questions or please keep yourself from posting.
LQ Red Hat Forum is dead...probably because the resident experts are too busy repeating the same answers of "CALL REDHAT. YOU DO PAY, DON'T YOU!?"
Jesus.
Sorry, but is there a point to this post? You complain about the answers given by others, yet don't offer one of your own. The thread asked a VERY vague question which couldn't be answered, about a piece of commercial software the OP didn't own. They asked "has it improved over the years"...the only answer can be "yes". They asked if it had improved enough to be 'attractive' to them...but didn't say what SPECIFICALLY they were looking for, or anything to define 'attractive'. The only way to answer this is "Contact Red Hat, and either buy it or get a demo and judge for yourself".
What else could be said, given what was asked? The OP said they were a premium RHEL customer...as such, they ARE paying, and can contact their Red Hat salesperson. One phone call can get them everything they need about Satellite, including a working 90 day demo. Why is it then bad to suggest that course of action???
A quick look at the advice given you by unSpawn, and a review of the tone and tenor of just about every interaction you have with people on this forum should answer your own questions.
I don't need to answer the ops question. You put the nail in that coffin some time ago.
If every redhat question should be a direct "CALL RED HAT. THEY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU PAY." then why have this sub-forum?
Also, flash back on my comment about tone and tenor. Nobody wants a lecture from the neighborhood know-it-all when asking for an opinion of a product or feature of said product. An actual opinion, or actual feedback, maybe.
A quick look at the advice given you by unSpawn, and a review of the tone and tenor of just about every interaction you have with people on this forum should answer your own questions.
I don't need to answer the ops question. You put the nail in that coffin some time ago.
If you don't want to give your opinion, or provide anything useful, then the only point of your post was to criticize what others have said. So what's the point?
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If every redhat question should be a direct "CALL RED HAT. THEY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU PAY." then why have this sub-forum?
That's your opinion. The threads asking about a COMMERCIAL ONLY RHEL product (like Satellite), can only BE answered by contacting Red Hat. Asking "I'm having problem xxx with sendmail" will get help. Asking "My RHEL system won't install xxx because it says it's not registered" will get told to go register, or use CentOS. Why is that a problem?
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Also, flash back on my comment about tone and tenor. Nobody wants a lecture from the neighborhood know-it-all when asking for an opinion of a product or feature of said product. An actual opinion, or actual feedback, maybe.
Again, you're missing the point, and won't address your own comments.
Asking "Has xxx improved over the years" is pointless. ANY piece of software has improved over the years, so the answer can only be "yes", which was given to the OP.
Asking "Has xxx improved enough to be 'attractive' to me", is equally pointless. That's like asking "Would I like brand xxx of beer?" How would ANYONE HERE know that?? Again, unless the OP (or ANYONE) provides a list of features they're looking for, it's impossible to address. They didn't. Since they didn't, and since they said they WERE paying RHEL subscribers, directing them to RHEL support for a list of features and working demo would certainly answer their question.
Again...if you have some good ways to answer the OP's question, given what they said, please do so. Tell us how it could have been done, given the absolute lack of any meaningful context. If you just want to whine about 'tone and tenor', keep it to yourself unless you can do better.
Dude, the OP, a moderator, and another poster have all commented on your behavior in this thread. Justify your behavior all you like. You're not convincing me.
Dude, the OP, a moderator, and another poster have all commented on your behavior in this thread. Justify your behavior all you like. You're not convincing me.
'nuff said.
Aside from you, there has only been the OP and a moderator. The moderator commented because *I* reported the OP, thanks.
And you haven't address what you were asked, and not provided anything better.
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