Dear LQ Users

One thing I love about Linux is that programs don't create spyware background apps for you, and all the programs are good (99% of them) and free. Unlike Windows, every program (which makes your Window$$$ slower every day) ask you for $10-$50.

THere are programs that are worth it (Ex: MusicMatch) but most of them are not.

However, I've read that RedHat is making two OS:

RedHat/Fedora Core (since RedHat 9 has been discontinued)
RedHat Enterprise (seems like it's impossible to download that one)

Since RedHat is based on the Linux Kernel (as in FREEDOM), how can they make a OS which is Window$$$ Like, buy it or don't use it???

Well, that isn't exactly true.

Redhat simply doesn't offer RHEL for download from them. If someone gave you CDs, it would be legal, since all RHEL software is open source.

There are also a few RHEL "clone" distros, like White Box.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xbaez
[B]Dear LQ Users

RedHat/Fedora Core (since RedHat 9 has been discontinued)
RedHat Enterprise (seems like it's impossible to download that one)


Hello

I'm currently downloading Redhat Enterprise Edition in DC++, So it is around ( if your lucky enough to find it ) but i haven't seen it around on any websites.

Kidprawn

What is DC++?

So what happens if some site uploads RedHat Enterprise into their servers?

Is that legal?

Or is that commercial software?

I think that if it's based on a free kernel (Linux), then it shoudl be free. Apart from that, I suppose that most of the software it uses (Mozilla, KDE, k3b, iptables...) is available free on the net

If it's free, then why can't I download it at linuxiso.org?

Regards

Hello

DC++ is ( in my opinion ) the best filesharing client there is period.
You can only use it in windows unfortunately, which is one of the reasons why i still use XP.

As far as it being shared on DC++ is concerned and whether or not thats legal, i don't know, however i have also seen the same version i downloaded from DC++ being available for a free download on the http://www.suprnova.org website. Look under 'Apps' then 'Linux', scroll down the list and you will see Redhat Enterprise Edition AS 3 available as a download for free.

If your not familiar with bittorrent, try a google search for further info, also if you want to download Redhat Enterprise from suprnova.org then you will have to install a small Bittorrent Client, version 3.4.2 is the latest i think and can be found here http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html

If DC++ interests you, then you can download it from here http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/
It might be a little difficult to configure if you've never used filesharing clients before, depending on your experience, but there are some very good FAQ's available which guide the user during the DC++ setup on the download site.

All the best

Kidprawn

For those that want RHEL, check out Whitebox Linux.

Its basically RHEL with all the Red Hat trademarks and logos removed.

http://whiteboxlinux.org/

Thanks for your help

http://www.suprnova.org is definitively the site I will check for.
I am very excited about Red Hat Enterprize, plus I really need it for my server

Regards

Xavier

I just checked this out at http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net (Linmodems Database Search)

Seems like most of Intel's modem won't work on Linux (unless I download the Intel Drivers for them)


Intel HSP56 MR8170 82801 BA/BAM AC97 Not Working

Intel AC97 ? 82801 ?? Not Working (this is the one I have)

AC97 devnum = 8000FE00, devid = 8086/2486 i810 1.2.0 20010920 Not Working

However I noticed this as well:
PCTel Toshiba Satellite 1110-Z14 Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem (rev 02) Not Working

I remember that I've successfully installed modem for two Toshiba Laptos from the Satellite series, so I guess my last attempt will be to install some Intel drivers

If that doesn't works, then I will give up

The excact chipset that my modem uses is this:

82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem

Here is what I found on the site:

Modem is recognised and responds properly to AT commands, however responds with "NO DIALTONE" when dialling. ATH1 doesn't respond either. It is in a Dell Latitude C840

Therefore, the SmartLink driver is installed ok.
And the conexant driver seems to be installed ok as well.

Here is other info about the 82801CA/CAM Chipset

The modem is working fine on my Dell Latitude C840. The chip set of the modem is 82801CA/CAM, but the driver pctel-0.9.6 from Jan Stifter works with "configure --with-hal=i8xx". I had a problem with different versions of gcc, which could only be circumvented by using insmod with the force option: insmod -f pctel insmod -f ptserial

It's not the excact version as I have, I am going to test it with PC_Tel though

Does somebody know what happened to the http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/linmodem.html project?

It was supposely going to be a project in order to give Winmodems support in Linux, to all of them

Could somebody please move my latest messages to this forum?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...41#post1116541

Sorry for the inconvenience

Regards

By downloading RHEL from a peer to peer network you are stealing it. This means that RH are not getting their money - money which they feed back into the community in a variety of ways. Far better to get either Fedora (the cutting/bleeding edge/test version of RH) or Whitebox.

Yeah the problem is that I really need to use RedHat Enterprise for my server computer, since that is the OS that my server will be using.

What excactly makes RedHat Enterprise copyrighted?
that is the main question of this forum, isn't RHE based on a free kernel, which is done by Linus?

Yes. But the distribution doesn't have to be free. Try installing the kernel on it's own - see how far you get. Somebody (in this case the paid employees of Red Hat package it, troubleshoot it, someone (Red Hat) has to host it, update it, etc. The GPL states that you do not have to offer it for free - all you have to do is make sure that the sources are available whether on reques or on the website - and they are quite within their rights to only offer it to paying customers.

The guy(s) who started Whitebox got the source and compiled it and called it by another name. You are quite free to do that yourself.

So, RedHat EL isn't copyrighted - it is GPL'd. And they are following the GPL correctly. If they weren't, Linus or the FSF would have called them on it. Just because one part of the distro is GPL'd and free (as in speech/beer) does not mean that the whole thing has to be distributed free of charge.

Correction.
Part of RHEL IS COPYWRIGHTED, PROPRIETRY & owned by Redhat Inc. for example 'up2date' Allmost all packages are GPL, which is why they are availalble of redhat.com & why the clever few (WhiteHat, CAOS, etc) mentioned in this thread have recompiled makeing a RHEL-compatible ISOs except

* No norecompile must contain any reference to Redhat
* No recompile is allowed to to cotain certain Redhat code, e.g. up2date

wrong ? ~ tell me then !