Main Puppy Linux Forum Down - Status

Originally Posted by LobsterEd We normally go down when a new Puppy is released, usually the server protects itself and John has to reset. As John is traveling (last I heard from him) and may not always have Internet access (yes there are places like that). Something he mentioned that should not be made public. The reason it was not made public is precisely because he was not in a position to maintain the forum at owner status. I am sure he had better things to do then hand over temp ownership to cover this eventuality . . .

makes no sense, you normally go down when there is a release and the only person who can deal with any prob that may come up is traveling and unreachable,

then again, we are dealing with puppyland here,

he had better things to do?! he might consider another spokesperson for a start, that is if you actually speak on his (or anyone's) behalf in any official capacity,

you are also known to have been removed as a mod, by the person you are now speaking for

Really jonyo? For someone who does not like the murga forum you sure know a lot about it. Sounds to me like you might be part of the problem. Why dont you just leave the people that like the murga forum alone. We do not care about you. Who cares if we drank the "Kool Aid" it was our choice to do so. If you dont like it tough.

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Originally Posted by pupfan Really jonyo? For someone who does not like the murga forum you sure know a lot about it. Sounds to me like you might be part of the problem. Why dont you just leave the people that like the murga forum alone. We do not care about you. Who cares if we drank the "Kool Aid" it was our choice to do so. If you dont like it tough.

and that has what to do with the topic? "Main Puppy Linux Forum Down - Status"

the status is that it is a joke, there is a whole 8 page thread about yo yo probs over years, one unreachable man alone seems to only have the the ability to do anything about whatever is going on

and if it is all lost, it is a puppy disaster,

or at the very least plenty of good works and efforts by others down the the toilet,

cry me a river,

for the kool aid lovers, i say line up and drink it quick,

here's some reality for you there kool aid supporting, 2 post wonder pupfan and whatever is on your mind,

you don't have to be associated with the old forums whatsoever and still be a supporter of pup

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02608

Posted on 24 Nov 2011, 23:08 by Sage Some things can only be downloaded from the forum! The Forum repo is vast. On the one hand, John has always assured us that he has it well backed-up, but no-one so far has raised the issue of who owns the IPR! The bad news is that it may not be John?! Even worse, it may not even be the originators of all those invaluable links, tips, even .pet s? Must be nearly a decade since I first mentioned these concerns, but, as ICPUG points out, we are all guilty of complacency and should've given John a lot more help a long time ago.

sage of course, covers the who and why

http://puppylinux.info/ and http://puppylinux.us/wayback/

I thought l0wt3ch might be interested in this thread so I sent him a link.

Originally Posted by puppyite I thought l0wt3ch might be interested in this thread so I sent him a link.

posting a private email, without consent, or input from the author of the words, reflects poorly on you and your forum,

even if l0wt3ch responds in accordance with your post,

your post speaks volumes about you and makes no other point

i don't attribute any words used in that post to l0wt3ch unless the author responds

and i would tend to agree with whatever they may have to say over your posting

could be wrong but i also think i saw in your forum that l0wt3ch has been (or perhaps was) banned

it also reflects poorly on you that you even posted a link to it here

perhaps you missed this posting

edit- matter of fact, given this posting, my support for your forums has ended

On 11-22-2011 the following was offered in this thread as a possible reason why John Murga forum is offline:

I have heard that it has been attacked several times, presumably by script-kiddies without lives, perhaps this is just a sustained denial-of-service overload attack?

While there is no shortage of people who would like to see John Murga forum closed I don’t believe that’s why it’s still offline at this time.

I think it’s more likely that in his haste to leave on holiday John made a blunder and put his site out of commission all by himself - it wouldn’t be the first time.

there should be no excuses as far as having a full backup goes,

this may also become relevant

Posted on 25 Nov 2011, 13:52 by mavrothal Passwords Regardless of if and when the murga-linux puppy forum will come up or why did it go down, there is an important bit of information that is needed now. Was it compromised? Particularly the password database. People tend to recycle their passwords across different sites and accounts, so if this is the case they must be warn ASAP.

http://puppylinux.us/wayback/index.p...g25.html#msg25

Apparently John Murga is the only person who has top level access to the server...and if, as Lobster stated in IRC, he is out oif town and perhaps unreachable...there is nothing anyone can do. So, if you are really concerned about your password security....and you use the same one at Murga that you use for other sites...you'd best start changing passwords. My personal opinion is the server was not hacked. I think the far larger problem is that there is no administrative backup person....and we all suffer because of that. Thom

@puppyite, if i wasn't clear i'll repeat, pls do not contact me privately, i'm not interested in private chit chat at this point, or impressed with how you go about it in attempts to resolve issues that are relevant and important to me,

we may be able to resolve issues openly, but that remains to be seen

if i am unbanned or whatever it is that is going on, i may post again in your forums if i like what i see, but certainly will only attempt to deal with any further issues that may come up there

my experience has been as you know, that you are way too involved in what someone may have to say, but if it works for you then great, it doesn't for me

if it was all left to john then he can do whatever he likes, including just shutting it down and not even respond at all,

wouldn't be surprised of a legal liability issue

Not sure if anyone posted this info yet.

Nameserver trace for www.murga-linux.com: Looking for who is responsible for root zone and followed k.root-servers.net. Looking for who is responsible for com and followed a.gtld-servers.net. Looking for who is responsible for murga-linux.com and followed ns2.murga-linux.com. Nameservers for www.murga-linux.com: ns2.murga-linux.com returned (SERVFAIL) ns3.murga-linux.com returned (SERVFAIL)

Domain Name: MURGA-LINUX.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC. Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS2.MURGA-LINUX.COM Name Server: NS3.MURGA-LINUX.COM Status: clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientRenewProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 11-jul-2011 Creation Date: 19-nov-2006 Expiration Date: 19-nov-2012

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With regards to forum failure:

Originally Posted by JohnMurga I have kept it running many years in many difficult circumstances accross several continents, and consider myself capable of continuing that task.

I'd characterize the current outage as an "Epic Fail".

It’s time to stop beating around the bush.

John Murga Forum is permanently closed and is not coming back - ever.

If you don’t believe what I say that’s fine by me.

I really don't want to get deeply involved with this discussion. But I went to the Puppy website at Puppy Linux Website and it said,

ALERT: The main forum is down, go to this alternate help board for your questions, or use the contact page.

Which points to Here as the alternate forum. I am not a person that uses Puppy Much. I am not signed up at any of the forums, newsletter, etc. So I really have no idea what is going on nor do I really care. I am only stating facts.

Don't know if anyone has seen these

Puppy Linux Forum supplement and backup forum

Puppy Linux Wayback Forum old puppie

Puppy Linux Wikka Forum wiki info