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Old 07-24-2019, 06:06 AM   #496
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Hm.

Should it be turned into a "small" tutorial?
No need, it's already here. I don't think c is learned from a small tutorial.
 
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:10 AM   #497
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No need, it's already here. I don't think c is learned from a small tutorial.
I agree sort of with both. Over the years, I've had a draft blog entry sort of titled, "C programming for beginners", and the time I've spent on it has been "every third year or so, for about 5-10 minutes".

While we all feel that there possibly can be better learning aids, (and this is long term recollection, since it's been 3+ years since I last tried any edits a.k.a. I dropped that effort entirely), each time I get to a point where I'm thinking, (1) I'd like to write something more interesting than hello.c, and also (2) illustrate something more useful/instructive where I can build upon it as an example and lesson plan. And then you get to thinking about the variety of concentration points you would advise a new learner about. You also may realize or feel that they could be different style learners than you, and you think of some people you've helped and where their messed up viewpoints led them astray. In the end, I'm realizing now that the best preparation for that all would be to develop an actual course syllabus, which would lead to a book. It's not just a small lesson, or tutorial. Those do help, but to really teach a new coder from scratch, it may involve the development of a course.

While I think there are chunks of this thread which would be very useful to a new coder, as observed earlier: ~500 replies, multiple pages to read, a lot of it may be confusing for anyone to start from scratch and get entirely through.
 
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:44 AM   #498
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(1) I'd like to write something more interesting than hello.c, and also (2) illustrate something more useful/instructive where I can build upon it as an example and lesson plan.
Perhaps a rougelike game? That's a long-term project that can snowball into a suitable lesson plan.
 
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Perhaps a rougelike game? That's a long-term project that can snowball into a suitable lesson plan.
I believe you misconstrue my meaning. I was not looking for ideas. I was saying that I believe any lesson plan may become the equivalent of a book and that I've long since decided to not continue trying to create any instructions on the matter.

However, by all means if you believe you have a realistic idea to create a useful guide, I suggest you start an LQ blog entry about the topic.
 
  


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