Hi folks,

as I found myself doing more and more websites for friends and customers I thought of starting using a web framework. But as the number of those is just endless I can't make my head up which one to use.

The language it should be written in ought to be perl or php. Where over perl is prefered. Java is out. Ruby or other stuff might be a consideration.

What I need the framework to be capable of is:
- lightweigth
- session handling (with groups would be great)
- creating and validating forms from sql structure

Template handling is not that important.

I looked into Catalyst and Mojolicous but both are just to bloated and to hard to get my head around. Maybe not to hard but I want to get things done and not LEARN a framework. (In my opinion frameworks should make things easier).
Mason is just not realy what I'm looking for.

On the PHP side I will look into codeignitor and cakePHP but honestly I want to learn some more perl.

So if anyone of you can help me out with my decision or has some nice stuff...

Greatings Zhjim

Maybe http://www.webgui.org/ ?

They make things easier after you've learned them.

Webgui looks okay, but it's just not what I want.

The problem with learning one framework for me is that you just know that framework. Also it's easier to learn another framework but at first you only know one framework and have to live with it (for some time). Do Understand me it's not that I don't want to learn I just want to avoid to learn one single framework (and missing the time to learn them all).

Anyways. I guess I'll just dig some more into CPAN and gather some bits from there.

Python web framework
Ruby on rails

http://masonhq.com/
http://search.cpan.org/~tsibley/Jift...9/lib/Jifty.pm

Define "some time". To learn enough about a framework to compare it to another one, all you need to do is skim its documentation and do its tutorial project. That takes 1-3 hours per framework.

Use a content management system