Yes understand what a program is and why you cannot just write a program and it magically is for a distro. I specifically said can't do snap store. Using flatpak, it fills all like my needs. X E.

Oops, meant developer not developer expert in tags, sorry. X E.

I don't think flatpaks can actaully be distributed outside a repo tho? Usually people who offer flatpaks on their on provide a "ref" file that still requires connection to some flatpak repository. Of course you can get your app on flathub, but it sounded like you didn't want to use an existing appstore, so that means you'll have to setup your own flatpak repo. It's not a simple thing like a tarball or deb package.

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So how do I make a .deb in say Rust or Java? All I have seen is in Python or C for official tutorials. Locally now, no push to some external repo I will probably be paying for later. X E.

According to like my research flatpak is not exactly native but close enough and I should not need a flatpakref file and can just distribute as a .flatpak file. Also no repo needed seemingly. X E.

Actually yeah, flatpak may require a repo. X E.

https://crates.io/crates/cargo-deb
Okay found Rust deb maker, solved. X E.

TL;DR creating a .deb, .rpm, .snap, .lslpp etc. file is not programming, that's why languages like Rust, Python, Snobol or Focal have nothing to do with it.

Well technically programming languages do have a part but are not everything. To program you must use some language almost irrelevant which it is though it may be. Also, .deb's are like only native solution for Debian based. That Rust thing was only for Ubuntu. X E.

I am still unclear how to know how to connect to native hardware stuff in Rust. Do not even know what libraries less how to connect to them. Not needed but how to use sensing hardware in Rust? Can it be like made .deb can just be installed with little dependencies? This I have not done much research on, too occupied what to program in how. Okay, I did research, bunches of libraries and dependencies to install, is there a direct way? More research, I found this library for making .deb files can use dependencies in Rust. Now just which to use, no help needed or wanted. X E.

You *DO NOT MAKE A PACKAGE IN ANY LANGUAGE* Again, did you not read/understand what was spoon-fed to you???? AGAIN, it is well documented, and NO PACAKGES (either .deb or .rpm) need rust/python/c/whatever to work. Apparently, simple how-tos are too much for you to read or understand.

You specify what files are in the package; the package utility creates it. You are NOW DONE...it is a local package. Install it, upload it to a github, do whatever. The control file is (if you bothered to read or understand things) a text file. There are even utilities to help you create these things...again, you didn't read what you were given or do anything on your own as far as research. You are STILL harping on this/rust/python thing for .deb files, when **IT DOES NOT RELATE** to it. You have been told this many times now....is there a particular word you're having trouble with???

Read it, understood and hey, do you not understand that an app needs logic e.g. a programming language? Are you struggling to understand that I do not just want static text? If you want logic and reactions you MUST use some programming language. Where did pick a language and write in it go? Out a window and over a hill? Also there are ALWAYS specific ways things must be structured so just throw in a few random files that do stuff on their own or in another system is wrong. Have you ever programmed TB0ne? If this persists I might just report you. Thanks for trying to help but it is not helping. Any programmers want to help? X E.

TL;DR you wish to package your program into a .deb or .snap or something else; the first problem is that you haven't started writing the program yet.

I think we may have had a misunderstanding, by native I meant like can be installed and by download to user it was like user gets package and can install, anyway, with that nearly saying same stuff. We do seem to disagree about whether any programming language CAN be used at all with apps, I think it can, you think it should not. X E.

I know, I need to know what programming stuff I can or should use and Rust seems like a good option. X E.