Thanks for the clarification. It should be noted, of course, that Ubuntu defaults to Gnome and Mepis to KDE, then. In both distros you can download the other desktop environment, should you choose.

I have been using Mepis now for about a year and really like it. I am a recovering Windoze user and Mepis seems to be the easist distro to use for a Linux nOObie. I agree that it is the first distro that I would recommend any Linux newbie try and I can tell you I have tried all the major distros and Mepis is the only one I still have on the box I use at home every day. I did just recently purchase a new laptop (Asus Z8000k bare bones) and wanted a 64 bit compatible OS to put on that and I have settled on Ubuntu with a AMD64 kernel. Try them all (distros) and you will find the one you like!

Mepis 3.3.1 came today. As far as I'm concerned it paid for itself in the first half hour.

It came up dual booting with Win2K. The desktop icons are a bit smaller and fit better than the previous version. I didn't have long to play with it so didn't take notes, but there were several other improvements.

Unchanged is the fact that recognizes my printer but doesn't print and, of course, the modem.

The whole feel of the new version is so much better.

I found a dislike in the new Mepis.

It doesn't come with the same games as the older version. Or if it does I can't figure out how to get them off the CD.

What games are you looking for? Don't you get most games through Synaptic/Apt-Get? The CD games that come pre-installed are minimal.

The only card games I see are the Penguin games. The older version had a classier version of Klondike that I liked. Haven't really had time to look at the other types of games. Just noticed that the lists were shorter.

I've not used any version of Linux long enough to install anything. So am still completely in the dark as to how to do it.

Will be reading through the "Point and Click Linux" book this evening to see what I can learn.

read here http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/inde...oving_Software (follow the first 2 links and read about installing software)

Installing any game from Debian pool should be a trivial thing

Thank you Adrian,

It sure is nice to have the help of people such as yourself.

I'm sure it will be no problem as soon as I've done it a few times.

Enjoy!

Kstars is not listed under games but a file search turns it up in /usr/share/doc/k..
How can I either access it or put it in the games menu?
Thanks

apt-get install kstars (or use Synaptic/KPackage to install it).

It should show under "Edutainment" category, if it doesn't use Kmenu to add a entry. "kstars" is the command that starts it.

thanks for the instant reply

"apt-get install kstars (or use Synaptic/KPackage to install it)."

I thought apt-get was used to download apps?
Kstars seems to already be on the hd.

Could you give a more detailed explanation of how to use kmenu to either access or actually put kstar into the game section.
kstar used to be in the edutainment category but this category has been dropped from Mepis 3.3.1

Thanks

ok try to run "update-menus" and see if you get the entry there.
Also try "kstars" in konsole or "run command" to see if you really have installed.

If you do have it installed and still don't get it in the menu go to Kmenu -> System -> Settings -> Menu Editor then go to File -> New item and type the name and for "command" use "kstars" you can also click on the icon to change it.

Thanks
Neither "run command" nor the konsole show kstars.
so what is the file /usr/share/doc/k..? thaty the "find file" app found?
"update -menus" returned "command not found"
the repositories for Mepis are very limited and I would rather not add to them in case something breaks.
Thanks

if typing "kstars" in konsole and "run command" doesn't start the program than it means you don't have it installed. If you don't want to uncomment Debian sources than you can only install it by downloading the .deb file directly from ftp.debian.org however this way you might have dependency problems.

If I were you I'd uncomment Debian sources. Read here: http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/inde...Debian_Sources

it should be under edutainment-science.

celestia is a really cool app as well.