Unable to run Manjaro Linux with kernel greater than 4.14
 

I’ m trying to run Majaro Linux with new kernel, greater than 4.14, but i show only black screen and the mouse pointer. When I try to change to other tty, I show other one black screen and cursor.

Operating System: Manjaro Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.88.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 4.14.257-1-MANJARO (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 2 × Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory: 7.8 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2

When I run live-cd (manjaro-kde -19.0.2-minimal-200311-linux54) with free or non-free drivers, everything works perfectly. Trying to do a new fresh installation, with free drivers and non-free ones, had no effect. The problem remains when I install the manjaro on the disk.

I quote information that can help solve the problem.
I have the following outputs that resulted during the operation of the 4.14 kernel system. I can’t have any output with newer kernels because system freezes.

Here is the output of:

What does sudo inxi -SGMayz run within an X session report?

Thank you for your time.
I have the following outputs that resulted during the operation of the 4.14 kernel system. I can’t have any output with newer kernels because system freezes.

Here is the output of: sudo inxi -SGMayz

Thank you for your time.
I have the following outputs that resulted during the operation of the 4.14 kernel system. I can’t have any output with newer kernels because system freezes.

Here is the output of: sudo inxi -SGMayz


System:
Kernel: 4.14.262-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.14-x86_64
root=UUID=b0b4f042-73ab-4d04-9ec6-11ff0c5251b4 rw quiet apparmor=1
security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Console: pty pts/1 wm: kwin_x11 DM: SDDM Distro: Manjaro Linux
base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5K3 Deluxe v: Rev 1.xx serial: <filter>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1206 date: 04/16/2009
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia
v: 390.147 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0e22
class-ID: 0300
Display: server: X.Org 1.21.1.3 compositor: kwin_x11 driver:
loaded: nvidia display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 90 s-size: 474x303mm (18.7x11.9")
s-diag: 563mm (22.1")
Monitor-1: DVI-I-2 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 98
size: 434x270mm (17.1x10.6") diag: 511mm (20.1")
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.147
direct render: Yes

Maybe this 2010 device's nvidia driver isn't supported by newer kernels/Xorg versions anymore?
Please figure out if the required version is still supported or try switching to nouveau.

PS: This is a wild guess.

Thank you for your answer.
GeForce GTX 460 has a supported device driver. Installing the nouneau driver has no effect. System freezes either with nvidia driver or with nouveau driver.
As i wrote in my firs post, when I run live-cd (manjaro-kde -19.0.2-minimal-200311-linux54), with non-free drivers, everything works perfectly. Trying to do a new fresh installation, with free drivers or non-free ones, had no effect. The problem remains when I install the manjaro on the disk.

skstelios, when you provide command output here, please enclose it in code tags, [ # ] icon above the input window, not quote tags. This preserves the formatting of the output to make it more comprehensible, and enables it to be quoted in a response.

skstelios, why do you need a newer kernel?

skstelios, do you have some other computer that could be used to try to remote login to your "frozen" Asus? It could be just local I/O is frozen, but the PC is actually working.

That could well be the reason for his using the 3 year old kernel. NVidia's drivers aren't available for his 11 year old 460 in current kernels.
Nouveau is ambiguous. Nouveau is the name of a kernel device module (driver) included with every kernel for well over a decade. Nouveau is also the name of a reverse-engineered, optional display driver for which there's been a newer techonology display device driver as default for over seven years (modesetting).

I don't know how OP managed to achieve an installation with such an ancient kernel along with current KDE. With the fresh installation there could be some Manjaro-specific bug. I suggest trying a live media boot of some other current distro, or a fresh installation of some other distro known to work with similar old NVidia GPUs, and if it black screens, acquiring logs (Xorg.0.log, journal, dmesg) to inspect for clues as to the reason. I have very similar Geforce, GF108 vs. OP's GF104, both being Fermi microarchitecture, working with no black screen trouble in current openSUSE Tumbleweed and KDE:Note use of default device (nouveau) and display (modesetting) drivers. NVidia's are not required.

mrmazda thank you for your answer and for your clarifications about command output.

Anything newer than 4.14 isn’t working. Is that not reason enough?

Unfortunately, I do not know how to do this.

Οn a second disc I have an older installation of manjaro. I've tried upgrading it to a newer kernel, but nothing. I've tried a new installation of manjaro but still nothing. Any distributions I have tried with livecd, run normally.

A simple web search would explain how to login remotely to a "frozen" computer. If you have any kind of wireless or wired connection between two PCs, typically a network connection, you should be able to login on the extra computer to the "frozen" computer if the "frozen" computer is actually just not accepting local input or providing local output.

If you provide the steps taken to try upgrading kernels, and logs from trying to boot with them, someone familiar with Manjaro might be able to help. It's been 5 days since the OP, and no one apparently familiar with Manjaro has responded. It may be that is because you provided so little detail about what you did and what resulted.

I don't use Manjaro, so the only help I can provide is generic.

I use a Manjaro based system, and for older Nvidia GPU's I have found that later kernels are OK, but, using only Nouveau and modesetting drivers, else it will, as you have found, boot to a black screen..

Best to ensure only drivers you want are being loaded, in your earlier output, it was defaulting to Nvidia drivers first;

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/C...Graphics_Cards

Manjaro provides NVIDIA driver 390 (currently 390.147), that supports your GPU, and works with recent Linux kernels.

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driv...x/184603/en-us

Supported products:

GeForce 400 Series:
GeForce GTX 480, GeForce GTX 470, GeForce GTX 465, GeForce GTX 460 SE v2, GeForce GTX 460 SE, GeForce GTX 460, GeForce GTS 450, GeForce GT 440, GeForce GT 430, GeForce GT 420

See the image attached too.