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Old 11-28-2020, 10:02 AM   #1
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Can I Remove These Two Programs?


Greetings:

I love Manjaro but not their heavy handed forum.

Since I have no HP peripherals, would it be ok to uninstall
both the HP Device Manger and HP-UISCAN? [Manjaro 20 - Cinnamon]

Thank you kindly.
 
Old 11-28-2020, 10:45 AM   #2
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It should be fine, but when you run the
Code:
sudo apt remove
with the actual package names, look closely at what apt proposes to remove. If it wants to remove too many other packages, you can press the n key and abort the operation. Having those packages installed does no harm, though, and they don't take up that much storage space, so removal doesn't seem essential.
 
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Old 11-28-2020, 12:59 PM   #3
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It should be fine, but when you run the
Code:
sudo apt remove
with the actual package names, look closely at what apt proposes to remove. If it wants to remove too many other packages, you can press the n key and abort the operation. Having those packages installed does no harm, though, and they don't take up that much storage space, so removal doesn't seem essential.
Sgosnell, thanks for your thoughts. Yes, indeed they do not take up a lot of storage, however,
in the "menu" the listing of programs is 168 and it takes time to scroll down to find a piece of software. And hopefully, these unused programs do not lead to some sort of operational conflict.

Some of these were installed by me but I would never use "hot corners" for example. I do need to be careful not to remove programs, which are important to the operating system. Your suggestion to review their significance to the OS is excellent advice, which I will follow.

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Old 11-28-2020, 03:47 PM   #4
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Does Manjaro use apt? I did not know that.

Bet that's part of hplip
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/hplip/

Code:
pacman -Si hplip
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
 
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Old 11-29-2020, 02:04 AM   #5
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Yes, you can remove that (yay -R ...) and if you do not have a printer you can remove much more, the whole printer daemon (yay -R cups).
Be sure not to remove too much.
But also make sure no orphans are left behind.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
 
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:46 AM   #6
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Does Manjaro use apt? I did not know that.

Bet that's part of hplip
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/hplip/

Code:
pacman -Si hplip
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

Teckk, I have saved your last link. Very helful information.

I did check HP list of divers and it is only for their devices.
So I must assume others printers would not work with their divers.
 
Old 11-29-2020, 08:52 AM   #7
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Yes, you can remove that (yay -R ...) and if you do not have a printer you can remove much more, the whole printer daemon (yay -R cups).
Be sure not to remove too much.
But also make sure no orphans are left behind.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
Ondoho, I removed the program and did several test prints and all
works as it should.

The software was uninstalled via "add/remove software" option.

Question to you, how does one check for orphans?
 
Old 11-29-2020, 09:13 AM   #8
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For some reason I thought Manjaro used apt. My apologies. I've never tried Manjaro, just heard of it, and apparently didn't hear enough.
 
Old 11-29-2020, 11:05 PM   #9
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Question to you, how does one check for orphans?
Search the link I gave you.

And in the future, the arch wiki is always the first go-to for problems on all arch-based distro.
Well, strictly speaking, the Manjaro wiki is the first go-to, then the arch wiki.
 
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Old 11-30-2020, 06:40 AM   #10
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For some reason I thought Manjaro used apt. My apologies. I've never tried Manjaro, just heard of it, and apparently didn't hear enough.
"apt is a command-line utility for installing, updating, removing, and otherwise managing deb packages on Ubuntu, Debian, and related Linux distribution."

Sgosnell, I tried enter the 'apt" command several times and it
did not work. Manjaro, being an Arch based OS uses different command
structure.

Hear is a sample command for installing software.

"# pacman -S package_name1 package_name2"

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Old 11-30-2020, 07:01 AM   #11
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Search the link I gave you.

And in the future, the arch wiki is always the first go-to for problems on all arch-based distro.
Well, strictly speaking, the Manjaro wiki is the first go-to, then the arch wiki.
Ondohoo, I found the appropriate link.

----> https://www.linuxsecrets.com/manjaro...e_Removal.html
 
Old 12-01-2020, 12:44 PM   #12
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^ Well, the Manjaro wiki is actually here: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php

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Hear is a sample command for installing software.
"# pacman -S package_name1 package_name2"
I dunno how Manjaro handles these things, but on ArchLinux proper partial upgrades are not supported.
In other words, you never just install one package, you always bring the whole system up to date before installing one package:
Code:
# pacman -Syu package_name1 package_name2
Also I believe that Manjaro relies on the AUR quite a lot which isn't covered by pacman itself.
Hence me suggesting yay instead.
 
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:29 PM   #13
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^ Well, the Manjaro wiki is actually here: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php


I dunno how Manjaro handles these things, but on ArchLinux proper partial upgrades are not supported.
In other words, you never just install one package, you always bring the whole system up to date before installing one package:
Code:
# pacman -Syu package_name1 package_name2
Also I believe that Manjaro relies on the AUR quite a lot which isn't covered by pacman itself.
Hence me suggesting yay instead.
Ondoho, I am not sure what you mean "bring the whole system up to date." Does that means making sure there are no updates, in the "Update Manager" or installing any dependencies?

You are right about downloading programs mainly from their AUR. I added all additional programs from that depository [AUR].

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Old 12-03-2020, 12:48 AM   #14
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Ondoho, I am not sure what you mean "bring the whole system up to date."
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...re_unsupported
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/S...artial_Updates
Less asking, more reading please.
 
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:14 PM   #15
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gracias amigo! Good reading indeed.

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