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Old 07-26-2005, 11:41 PM   #1
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Stupid GNOME question


Hello,
I have a big question.. I have seen other screen shots of people using gnome and having the top bar on their desktop like the one in KDE. One that I have seen was for an OSX theme, at first I thought it came with the theme but I installed the theme even got the buttons ont eh left instead of the right etc etc but no bar on top. Any ideas or am I just crazy or are the people using a 3rd party program.. I hope you guys can help you almost always do btw my earleir post were about windows emulation months ago I got Cedega 4.4 and regular wine and I can run just about anything.. I figured it out eventually... You guys have helped a lot.. Hope you can come through this time.

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Dustin
 
Old 07-27-2005, 12:14 AM   #2
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I believe gdesklets should do the trick.
 
Old 07-27-2005, 12:20 AM   #3
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gdesklets... I have heard of that and I hae also heard it was a pain to install correctly and it could screw up your linux install.. are these just rumors? I know I bug you guys a lot but I am still learning linux.. I used it in my networking class but that was like mandrake 7 or 8 and we mostly used the kde interface.. I'll look into this gdesklets though..

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Old 07-27-2005, 12:26 AM   #4
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Dustin,

I still consider my self a newbie even though I have been using linux for over 2 years now
My experience with gdesklets is that it can be a pain. I think it really depends on the distro you are runngin.
Currently I am running Ubuntu 5.04 and I installed gdesklets ( sudo apt-get install gdesklets ) and it works without any problems.

-Vadim
 
Old 07-27-2005, 12:44 AM   #5
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking for, but I doubt it has anything to do with gdesklets. Gdesklets is something which makes a VERTICAL bar of system monitors and stuff on the desktop.

I take it you're trying to get a Mac-like bar on the top edge of the screen, right? By default KDE does NOT have a bar on the top edge--KDE's default is Windows-like (a bar on the bottom edge). GNOME's default is actually more Mac-like--it has a bar on the top, as well as a bar on the bottom.

I think that if you currently have everything configured into a bottom panel, all you need to do is move that panel to the top edge. If you have multiple panels, though, you'll want to move everything to one panel first. For each "thingy" in your bottom panel, right click on it to "unlock" its position. Then move it to where you want on the top panel. After you've moved all "thingies" to the top panel, delete the bottom panel. This is all done through the GUI interface. You don't need to mess with any configuration files manually, or install any software, or anything like that.
 
Old 07-27-2005, 12:53 AM   #6
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gdesklets also includes toolbars/launchers:

MAC OS Type:
http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ca...&gd_app_id=210

Other toolbar/launchers:
http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ca..._subcat_view=7
 
Old 07-27-2005, 12:57 AM   #7
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downloaded gdesklets i dont meet the requirements so i have to isntal all this crap to get it to work and i keep running into the problem with C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check when i try to install something. Anyways the bar which I am refering to is not a taskbar type thing on the bottom of the screen but the bar that has like file edit etc etc etc.. from what I have read is that i need to use gdesklets to make something like that correct?

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Dustin

btw i am using mandrake 10.1
 
Old 07-27-2005, 01:20 AM   #8
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from what I have read is that i need to use gdesklets to make something like that correct?
Correct.

Have you tried using urpmi application to install the gdesklets for you?
 
Old 07-27-2005, 01:23 AM   #9
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nay, i haven't I am not sure what that is I followed the instructions on the install and it didn't work right.. from the terminal.. i love linux and i love how you always learn when you do stuff it just gets frustrating cause if i am in a middle of doing something i like to finish before i sleep...

ta ta and thanks again,

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Old 07-27-2005, 01:36 AM   #10
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Command linux can be frustrating sometimes, but once you learn it, it becomes your best friend in the linux world.

Check out the following how on urpmi:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/walte...rpm-howto.html

After the how to you should be able to install gdesklets without any problems.
 
Old 07-27-2005, 01:46 AM   #11
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xaxol do you have msn or somethign because its getting sort of difficult to go back and forth on this fourm... Thanks for the help though. when the mentioned just having a top panal, that isn't really what I want. When I was talking about KDE i was saying taht I could just right click go into desktop config and say add top application menu like Mac or what not.. I was hoping gnome would have the same function I reckon it don't and it is going to be complicated and be done by gedesklets.. yippie lol

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Old 07-27-2005, 02:04 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by fatenabu Anyways the bar which I am refering to is not a taskbar type thing on the bottom of the screen but the bar that has like file edit etc etc etc.. from what I have read is that i need to use gdesklets to make something like that correct?
I REALLY don't think this is a gdesklets issue.

What you want is definitely the Mac-style bar at the top, and NOT an application launcher or whatever else the others in this thread are talking about. I don't think the others have ever used a Mac, so they don't know what you're trying to describe.

The "file edit etc etc etc" thing is the application menu. The Windows/Unix style of application menu is put in each individual application window, underneath the window's title bar. The Mac style of application menu is part of the bar at the top of the screen (switching to whatever application has focus).

Under KDE, you can have a Mac-style application menu bar at the top, but it only works with KDE applications. Other applications, like Mozilla Firefox, will still have the application menu within the application window (the menu bar at the top defaults to the basic desktop menu).

I'm not sure if there's a way to do this in GNOME. A quick Google search tells me that it's probably impossible for now.
 
Old 07-27-2005, 02:07 AM   #13
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hey you understand what i am getting at I couldn't think of what it is called but yea application window. aka the Finder bar as a friend of mine calls it. I am getting a mac for like 200 dollars only a year old anyways sorry for the tangent there but i love how os x has that bar and i even moded my windows xp with several 3rd party program to have the gui of os-x with fully functional finder bar and dock etc a friend of mine thought it was os x emulated... but anyways i love how the mac has the application bar and yea kde does have it for kde applications, the reason i am wanting this bar is because udner kde i can't get wine/cedega to work :/

ta ta,

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Old 07-27-2005, 04:50 AM   #14
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Re: Stupid GNOME question

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Originally posted by fatenabu
Hello,
I have a big question.. I have seen other screen shots of people using gnome and having the top bar on their desktop
It's just another panel placed on top. You can have as many panels as you like and place them where you want, just go to the panel, right click to raise the context menu, create another panel, an place it where you like.
 
Old 07-27-2005, 01:20 PM   #15
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nay,
It isn't a panal because I have tried to do that already that was a first thing I have tried. From what I figure the panals are just like the windows taskbar type thing but when you make a new one it is blank and there is no way to put in the File,Edit,etc etc, on there, it is an application bar aka the finder bar on a mac. I want something similar to that. It is hard to explain if you haven't used a Mac. And no I am not talking about the dock for that I will need gdesklets but I am not intrested in a dock right now. Once I get the application menu which I think may be done by gdesklets done I will get it to work. BTW any advice on the cpp error i posted earlier and yes I do have a cpp installed.

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Dustin
 
  


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