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Old 11-15-2004, 12:33 PM   #16
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jonr, that could be quite difficult, as there is no screensaver service. Neither is there a control script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
 
Old 11-15-2004, 12:56 PM   #17
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jonr, that could be quite difficult, as there is no screensaver service. Neither is there a control script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
Of course you're right. I thought it was a service, but it doesn't show in my list of services. Nevertheless, xscreensaver runs as a daemon in the background. It just shows up in ps ax as "screensaver" as a sleeping process....

In the Mandrake distribution, it can be controlled and configured through a graphic interface. I select >system>configuration>other>screensaver....
 
Old 11-15-2004, 07:28 PM   #18
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Xscreensaver is not utilized under KDE, rather the Xscreensaver modules are individially ported and modified for KDE.

This is why they can be found seperately as xxxx.kss files on the system.

No service or invokation of xscreensaver is needed.

If you enter the KDE control center and go to look and feel/screensavers you should be able to choose any one listed.

In the preview window you will see the screensaver in action.

If the preview window remains blank then the screensaver will also not (usually) launch.

This in turn is caused by lack of or missing openGL support either on your video card or installed libraries.

e.g. you missed some opengl libraries...
 
Old 11-16-2004, 12:59 AM   #19
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The xscreensavers show up in my Kde settings and even show up when you click test. However, if you click Lock screen or wait for the screensaver to come on, only a blank screen will display. This problem doesn't exist with the default kde screensavers.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 02:00 AM   #20
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Eh no.

Xscreensavers and what shows up in the KDE control panel are to totally different things.

This causes much confusion.

The KDE screensavers borrow code from Xscreensavers, but it is specifically written for KDE.

The KDE screensavers are called names like bouboule.kss, etc.

These differ from the Xscreensavers completely and do not require the Xscreensaver engine at all.

That is why the Xscreensaver setting you are referring to has no effect.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #21
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I'm not using xscreensaver, but there are screensavers in kde now that are normally bundled with xscreensaver. Whether they are different or not, I don't care. The damn things shouldn't show up in there if they don't work like the default kde screensavers do.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 06:52 AM   #22
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I had the exact same problem as explained by Ion Silverbolt. My way around it was, I installed xscreensaver and I opened the program with my "run" menu and I minimize it to the bottom of my desktop. It's not an official fix, but nonetheless it starts and works this way.

I never could figure out why it would do this either.

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The xscreensavers show up in my Kde settings and even show up when you click test. However, if you click Lock screen or wait for the screensaver to come on, only a blank screen will display. This problem doesn't exist with the default kde screensavers.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 11:58 AM   #23
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Eh no.

Xscreensavers and what shows up in the KDE control panel are to totally different things.

This causes much confusion.

The KDE screensavers borrow code from Xscreensavers, but it is specifically written for KDE.

The KDE screensavers are called names like bouboule.kss, etc.

These differ from the Xscreensavers completely and do not require the Xscreensaver engine at all.

That is why the Xscreensaver setting you are referring to has no effect.
The KDE screensavers are installed and work. When the Xscreensaver packages are installed, they too show up as available screensavers in KDE's Control panel. The KDE screensavers work well, both in the mini-preview and when the desktop is locked or when the screensaver is automatically invocated after a period of non-use, however the chosen xscreensaver will not.

If user intervention is needed to start the xscreensaver daemon, the xscreensavers shouldn't be listed as available in the KDE control centre. This user has intervened and started the xscreensaver daemon, yet the blasted screensavers still will not function when the screen has been manually locked, or automatically after non-use.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 03:34 PM   #24
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Xscreensavers and KDE screensavers are not the same thing.

You can actually remove the Xscreensavers from the /usr/lib/X11R6/ directory and the KDE screensavers will still appear and run fine, but that is beside the point.


There were some problems with upgrades when moving from a prior release to a newer one whereing the KDE screensavers would not appear after the upgrade.

This was subsequently fixed (at least in 10.0) with one of the KDE updates, though even then they would at times not appear in the menu.

I remember that at one time I resorted to

rpm -qa | grep kde > files

rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -qa | grep kde`

urpmi < files

to uninstall everything and re-install it, which finally restored all of the screensavers.
 
  


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