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Old 03-22-2005, 01:10 PM   #1
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Question on load order..Windows first or Linux first?

I'm new to this. I posted originally with tiny fonts issue that seems to not be fixable no matter what I do. So I'm going to start from scratch and see if maybe the installation had a problem.

Anyway, I'm a novice with Windows, but I'm very new to Linux.

I'm waiting for my 6 dosk copy to arrive in the mail so for the meantime I wanted to play around with a free download of Mandrake.

Which would I put on first? Linux or Windows?

If I put Windows on first, If I install AV software, does it have to be compatible with both Linux AND Windows?
Old 03-22-2005, 01:13 PM   #2
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It would be better to put windows on first as it will always overwrite your bootloader.

Antivirus software is just an application. ie - one version will only protect one OS.
Old 03-22-2005, 01:17 PM   #3
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windows first, it overwrites the master boot record. it can be done the other way around but it's more work.
Old 03-22-2005, 01:21 PM   #4
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Like they said, install Windows first. Much easier to do everything, then.

And just get AV for Windows. Unless you are serving Windows machines with your email, you won't need a Linux AV.
Old 03-22-2005, 03:02 PM   #5
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Ok, so I can put my XP pro back on and just run the Linux Cd and Linux should try to partition my existing drive?

I had problems with Kaspersky on XP and with so many registry errors I decided to give Linux a try. I'm still not used to the interface, downloading programs and installing them in Linux.. etc.

So By my putting Windows back on my system..will I have an option of what OS I want to use on start up?

And lets say I have a problem with can I make it where I only have to format Windows and not cause problems in Linux.

I'm waiting for the mail to get delivery of a second hardrive and a new Nvidia video card, so I'll wait to install the full 6 disk Mandrake set that I'm also waiting to arrive in the mail after I install those two components.

I guess what I'm asking is.....Can Linux format the partitions for Windows? I'm going to install Windows on the older drive. (80gig) and install Linux on the 120 gig. I want to be able to create partions that in case I ever have a failure with either OS, I can easily just fix it without messing with all of my data.

Help! Also if anyone has good sources for partitions within Linux, please let me know of one. :-)

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Install XP Pro, but during the initial partitioning stage, reserve room for Linux. OR -- install XP Pro, and let Mandrake worry about making space for itself. (That latter option works, but IMO doesn't really leave enough room to play with Linux. It works better (usually) to do it yourself.)

WHen you boot the Mandrake install CD, it will walk you through things. At some point, it will ask you where to install Mandrake. If you didn't leave space for it, choose the option "Use Free Space within the existing Windows Partition" (or words to that effect). If you did leave space, then the best thing is a "Custom Partition". Create partitions in the empty space to put Linux in: at least a swap partition of ~512MB, and the rest (5GB+, IMO) for "/". You may want to have an additional "/home" partition, of at least 5GB, also.

Linux *can* format Windows partitions, but it is not usually advisable. Particularly not ntfs partitions. I generally use Windows tools for Windows, and Linux tools for Linux. Windows seems happier that way.

While you *can* re-install Windowsif it gets hosed, and you won't lose your Linux data, it *does* get a bit trickier, as Windows likes to think it owns your system, so it will overwrite your MBR every time. Relatively easy to fix, but a pain in the neck (or three feet lower...).

Oh, and IMHO, you don't need to mess with "downloading programs and installing them". Use the built-in package management system of Mandrake: urpmi (and it's gui front-end, rpmdrake). Check my sig for a link to Easy Urpmi, a web-based tool for setting up your repository sources. With those configured, you should rarely have to download anything - just point and click within rpmdrake.
Old 03-22-2005, 04:19 PM   #7
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I planned on putting them on different drives, Windows on the 80 and Linux on the 120..I wanted to be able to have games like Everquest and The Sims 2 on my system.. I've never bothered with partitions in my Windows but now since I'm getting a second drive and a second OS, I want to make sure that I can have a partition for
1. Music and Pictures (5gig?)
2. Everquest and The Sims 2 (about 20 gig?)..

With Linux having many options for Web Development (I'm still lost on what programs to use for that) I already own Dreamweaver MX, Corel Draw, Adobe Photoshop, and Fireworks in Windows, so I'm not sure if I should bother putting them back on for my Windows or just use Linux for my web Development..Any suggestions? I want easy to understand and configure. Other wise, most of my space on my system was games , music and web development files

I purchased Norton PM, waiting for it to arrive. I can use this for changing my partions in Windows and have it not mess up Linux?

I'm sorry I'm asking so many questions, but I want to fully understand what I'm about to do. I'm a NEWB.

So what I think you're saying is, it's possible to have Both OS's on the same HD. So in my case, since I have no clue about partitions ,except for when I have to wipe my system clean, do I put both XP and Linux on the new 120 gig drive and use the old 80 gig drive for storage and games?

Or Do I seperate both OS's on separate drives?
What is the best option for me to do?

I thank you soo much for your time..

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Separate drives is *much* better. Even better still when they are different sizes like you have.
Less chance of partitioning/formatting the wrong one late at night ...

You are not limited to 1 drive per system. Later on, if you need space that is available on the "other" drive, just use it.


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