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Old 07-20-2005, 07:39 PM   #1
cegha
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At this point im ready to ****in kill linux, i have had more problems getting crap to run correctly and setup then i have had since i have used windows. Azureus wants to be a ass and not let port 6881 through, i'v spent hours trying to get firefox to install to no avail, and now i tried installing a theme, so i copied it from the tar.gz file to a folder, and was told to right click then hit install, and amazingly enough there was no install button.

So i log out and now i can't get back in, i just get "The following problem was detected while trying to start KDE, Temp directory (/tmp) is out of disk space, KDE is unable to restart". then it kicks me back to the login screen, i can login as root. Tried going to the /tmp file and deleted like 2 files i knew i could, i didn't want to delete anything else in fear of screwing stuff up and having to re-install. I know it's not possible that i ran out of space, the / directory has 3.28GB of space and there are 2 160GB harddrives in the PC.

I don't want stupid answers like switch to Gnome or something, tell me how to fix this shit. The only reason i wasnted to use linux is because it's better or so i heard, but so far all i have had is programs not working, error's when extratcing files and programs crashing, it runs slower then my windows PC, god knows how that's possible, like when i click something there is lag before it displays a menu, or clicking a menu and it staying there.

BTW windows machine specs

2.25GHZ AMD 64 3000+ (it's OC'd)
crap video card MX 4000
256mb RAM (other 256 is in the linux machine)

Linux machine
2.6Ghz P4 w/ Hyperthreading
256mb RAM
integrated video

I ran windows on here before and AFAIK the integrated video didn't slow down windows like KDE is slowing down, and windows on the windows machine with hte AMD is running just fine (internet surfing, chatting, downloading), no lag at all, so i don't see why this linux one is lagging.

So someone help me, because im getting incredibley angry and frustrated with linux.

Also one thing that is annoying the heck outta me is when i click a folder it opens in a new window, anyway i can just make it open in the same window like windows does?

Also i tired downloading a file in Azureus, then i had to logout and back in a while ago and tried to restart Azureus, then during checking of it it goes it failed. WTF. Also the file i started downloading has a padlock in the lower left corner, like i need to login as root to write to it, which could have been the prblem when Azureus was checking the file. AGAIN SOMEONE SAVE ME OR IM GOING TO GO INTO A RAMPAGE.

Last edited by cegha; 07-20-2005 at 07:44 PM.
 
Old 07-20-2005, 10:01 PM   #2
nadroj
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At this point im ready to ****in kill linux
you cant kill an OS
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i have had more problems getting crap to run correctly and setup then i have had since i have used windows.
true.. same here. iv never had real problems with windows either, but its interesting to know about linux and use it.. you never know till you try it.
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Azureus wants to be a ass and not let port 6881 through
how did you set it up to ALLOW this port through? could it be a firewall issue? maybe a port forwarding issue on your router (if applicable)?
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i'v spent hours trying to get firefox to install to no avail
the new mandriva doesnt come with firefox?! did you check your package manager to see if you can easily install it? have you already tried that? what was the outcome/error message(s)? if not, what other method did you choose? what was the error message?
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and was told to right click then hit install, and amazingly enough there was no install button.
post a link to the file you downloaded and the readme file where this is taken from (if not included in the download).. was the file intended for your distro?

what did you do in between the last time you logged out and the time you couldnt log in as normal? you must have done something.. what did you change? edit? delete? etc...
i dont know about that error message.. do you have a swap partition setup? is the /tmp on its own partition? did you double check it actually wasnt full? try using du or df commands on the folder to check.

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I don't want stupid answers like switch to Gnome or something, tell me how to fix this shit
dont ask for help at all then.. which i question why im helping you on my own free time in the first place.. oh well.

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The only reason i wasnted to use linux is because it's better or so i heard
linux ISNT better. MacOS ISNT better. *BSD ISNT better. every OS has its benefits and its downfalls. some may be designed specifically to handle a certain task.. some try to be overall user-friendly while sacrificing the end users' power (not to give names ), etc.

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but so far all i have had is programs not working, error's when extratcing files and programs crashing
ok.. what are the problems? have you posted them here? with proper details and information? ie, what the problem is.. your hard/software if necessary.. what you did that you were/werent supposed to.. the error messages/logs/screenshots of the problem, etc etc. EVERYTHING takes time and practice to learn.. well, besides breathing.

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, it runs slower then my windows PC, god knows how that's possible, like when i click something there is lag before it displays a menu
do you have it configured for your system? have you installed your video card's driver? proper display size and refresh rate?

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crap video card MX 4000
i would NEVER buy a product by a company named after feces

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ran windows on here before and AFAIK the integrated video didn't slow down windows like KDE is slowing down,
again.. do you have your system configured properly for your hardware? have you tried using a different window manager? KDE most would say is the most resource-intensive WM there is. kde and gnome both are sluggish at times on my computer too, i have 2.8ghz w/ HT.

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Also one thing that is annoying the heck outta me is when i click a folder it opens in a new window, anyway i can just make it open in the same window like windows does?
i know in gnome you simply go to the folders preferences and theres an option for it.. very straightforward. i would almost guarantee KDE has the same type of option.. if not, check the control center (its probably in the folders [konquerer's] options though). do some looking around or research

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Also the file i started downloading has a padlock in the lower left corner, like i need to login as root to write to it, which could have been the prblem when Azureus was checking the file
this would probably be the permissions of the file, yes.. in a GUI right click the file and check its properties and see if you (the user you currently are) IS allowed to use, read, write the file. if at a console, type "ls -l myFile.txt" to check its permissions. if this is the case, use chown and chgrp to fix it.

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AGAIN SOMEONE SAVE ME OR IM GOING TO GO INTO A RAMPAGE.
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Last edited by nadroj; 07-20-2005 at 10:08 PM.
 
Old 07-20-2005, 10:51 PM   #3
cegha
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Azureus wants to be a ass and not let port 6881 through

how did you set it up to ALLOW this port through? could it be a firewall issue? maybe a port forwarding issue on your router (if applicable)?
I'm leaning towards it's a firewall issue, as shorewall is running, but even when i hit turn off firewall that doesn't seem to help. using webmin when i click "Linux Firewall" it says "Warning! It appears that Shorewall is being used to generate your system's firewall. Mabye you should use the Shorewall Firewall module instead." Don't know what that means. Under chain net2fw it shows port 6881 as TCP/UDP and accept, but im not sure if that's to listen or what. I got it fowarded through my router correctly so i am lost as to what it could be.

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i'v spent hours trying to get firefox to install to no avail

the new mandriva doesnt come with firefox?! did you check your package manager to see if you can easily install it? have you already tried that? what was the outcome/error message(s)? if not, what other method did you choose? what was the error message?
Well it comes with mozilla and i don't care for that so i went to getfirefox.com and got the tar.gz but assebmling them from source is a bit more then i know how to do as a NOOB. I don't see it under package distribution, only language stuff for it.

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and was told to right click then hit install, and amazingly enough there was no install button.

post a link to the file you downloaded and the readme file where this is taken from (if not included in the download).. was the file intended for your distro?

what did you do in between the last time you logged out and the time you couldnt log in as normal? you must have done something.. what did you change? edit? delete? etc...
i dont know about that error message.. do you have a swap partition setup? is the /tmp on its own partition? did you double check it actually wasnt full? try using du or df commands on the folder to check.
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392 - That's the theme i was trying to install under KDE (it's version 3.3), says to just right click the .KTH file and hit install. The only thing i did before logging out was i moved the folder to a themes folder in /home/cegha/themes. I let mandriva make the partitions i didn't do the advanced way and make my own, so there as large as mandriva made them. OMFG i logged out of Gnome and back in and like 6 error's opped up on the screen. Just turned it off and back on and got 2 [Failed] things when it was booting. says "starting partmon" then failed then it won't even start the GUI login (it goes to the black screen for localhost login, and i login then do root password and try startx and get error's), i have stuff on here i need so that must come off. When starting partmon it syas something about there being no room at all.

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but so far all i have had is programs not working, error's when extratcing files and programs crashing

ok.. what are the problems? have you posted them here? with proper details and information? ie, what the problem is.. your hard/software if necessary.. what you did that you were/werent supposed to.. the error messages/logs/screenshots of the problem, etc etc. EVERYTHING takes time and practice to learn.. well, besides breathing.
well i tried extracting the theme i downloaded eariler and when it would open in Ark it would crash, so i just downloaded it in windows and moved it over to linux. My Azureus thread explained that when azureus is launched from this script it shows the stuff happening in terminal but if i close that after its done azureus exits.
 
Old 07-20-2005, 11:25 PM   #4
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the firewall/port issue i dont know.. as i have never had to setup a firewall or open ports in linux before. i suggest starting a thread specifically about this, giving it a short but detailed thread title, and given sufficient information in the body of the thread.

this link (scroll down) displays a table of the (main/tracked) packages that come with mandriva. firefox and mozilla are on of them. therefore firefox IS on there. 'search' the computer for it.. if no results, then its included but just not installed by default, i guess. so open the package manager and there i would think be a search function and you should be able to search for 'firefox'. once found, it should install with afew clicks.

for the theme.. you did EXACTLY what it said?
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* After downloading the .gz file, extract all files in the directory you want, then "right click" on .kth file and "install..".
if so and it still doesnt work, try researching it. i found this link.
also, i know for gnome it keeps a hidden folder for themes.. check your home directory, there might be a '.themes' folder. the period (.) at the beginning of 'themes' is used to indicate a 'hidden' folder. there should be an option with your GUI folder browser to show/not show these files/folders. if using a terminal, they also will not show up. doing 'ls -a' (list -all) will show hidden files. if there is this folder, then put your themes in here, maybe.. unless kde/mandriva handles themes a different way or in a different location.

did you try du or df on the folder in question? (/tmp)?

from what i have read in the past, you should never just press the power switch (or reset) button on the computer without shutting down/rebooting linux properly. if something isnt working, you can press CTRL + ALT + F[1-7] to log into a different console, and then reboot/shutdown your computer using commands.. or maybe CTRL + ALT + DEL will work. maybe from what you did you screwed something up. i dont know what to say, except, search online (google + yahoo) for a while with the keywords containing your error messages. if no luck (after more than 30seconds of researching) then post the errors here, or search lq.org, or start a thread about it.

i dont know what your azureos thread is or about.. but, the way you said that it sounds like your trying to launch a program from some sort of script in a terminal window, correct? once you execute the script, it displays a bunch of gibberish or whatever, then happily runs your program? and when you exit the terminal window that you ran the script in it suddenly closes your program too? i dont know what the terminology would be.. but, you ran the program (script) in the terminal, so the terminal is like the host of the program.. the terminal where you ran the script needs to be running in order for your application to be running. it would be like booting into windows, opening windows media player, and trying to exit windows while keeping WMP open.. you cant.
 
  


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