newbie ltmodem help

blame582 · 10-04-2006, 02:08 AM

thanks for the reply Emmanuel_uk

well i 'll go back to linux and see what else i can find about my modem model
but i know the 2 links you provided aint the right ones i think and i'll try to comfirm
when i get back the the last 4 digits of the vender/device ID are 044c or 044e

i was told to pull th modem and write dow every # and do search on rpmfind.com for the right package

again thanks for the help
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Emmanuel_uk · 10-04-2006, 02:13 AM

I know I am rambling, but the links can be usefull to somebody else finding your thread

Quote:

device ID are 044c or 044e
i was told to pull th modem and write dow every # and do search on rpmfind.com for the right packag

yes, ids + email archive will tell you which package
then rpmfind if you keep wanting to use 9.2.

Good luck

Still post if you need help, and do post once you solved your problem

blame582 · 10-04-2006, 03:13 AM

well i remembered reading somewhere in the doc pages that windows was a good way to find info
about you modem or any hardware anyway here is what i found using SiSoft Sandra

Code:

SiSoftware Sandra

Device Information
Device Type : Other Communication Device
Device ID : bus 0, device 9, function 0
Device Name : Agere Win Modem
OEM Device Name : Lucent/Agere Systems (Was: AT&T MicroElectronics) LT WinModem 56k Data+Fax
OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_11C1, DEV_044E, REV_02
Device Name : RISQ Modular Systems Inc LT WinModem 56k Data+Fax
Product ID : VEN_1235, DEV_044E
Revision : A / 3 (2)

Power Management Features
Version : 2.00
Supports Clock Slow-down : Yes
Supports D1 PM State : Yes
Supports D2 PM State : Yes
Supports PME# : Yes
Supports PME Clock : No

Device Capabilities
Latency Timer : 32 clk
I/O port resources : Yes
Memory resources : Yes
Bus Master Capable : Yes
Special Cycle Recognition : No
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Address/Data Stepping : No
System Error Line : No
Fast back-to-back Transactions : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
Supports System Error Line : No
Supports Parity Line : No
User Defined Format : No
66MHz Bus Support : No
New Capability List : Yes
Device Select Timing : Medium
Multi-Function Device : No
Header : 00
Interface : 00

Hardware Resources
Memory Range : EF001000
I/O Range : 0000D000
I/O Range : 0000D400
Memory Range : 00000040
Irq. No. : 17
INT Pin : A#
Dynamic Management : Yes

using the device # 044E i'll try to find something

Quote:

yes, ids + email archive will tell you which package
then rpmfind if you keep wanting to use 9.2.

Good luck

Still post if you need help, and do post once you solved your problem

mate its not a matter of wanting to use 9.2 is what i have at the moment and i just want to prove to the
wife i can make it work better the windoze after playing in mandrake i find just about everything i do is faster
theres more native support for file ext.(dont have to have abunch of programs to install after the os)
load times are way faster then my winxp times i mean where talkin apples to oranages here winxp has about a 2min load time
where as mandrake loads about 45 secs maybe

and believe me i will post if i need more info thats what boards are for right

thanks again
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Emmanuel_uk · 10-04-2006, 04:04 AM

I do not know which kernel you have, did you try these
I know in your first post you were after a more recent package
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pack...ndrake/8.22a4/
there is rpmbone.net or sthg like that to consider instead of rpmfind

“Mate”, you can get a linux cd or dvd for just a few $, £, euros
I appreciate you have 9.2 at hands, but this is rather old, and in terms
of security not a good idea. You will get much more up to date software with
2005-2006-2007, even if your PC is old it should work (you can trim services),
use xfce (or whatever desktop) rather than KDE or gnome,
plus you may want Koffice or openoffice out of the box
If you struggle with the modem this is not going to help, but you can blame winmodems

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i just want to prove to the wife

Good luck with this

http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/howto.html

That might help, even make you laugh, or not
Quick guide to get a girlfriend using Linux (might apply to wife?)
http://www.bunchos.com/_wp/?page_id=3

you can look at linuxadvocacy as well

The fact we had zero viruses and no blue screen of death helped here to convince,
Eye-candies a bit, but not much; openoffice performance is taken for granted,
Gimp impressed big time. Firefox and opera impressive. Transition from outlook to Kmail, I have not heard a single complaint. I have tried to explain the ethics of open source etc, but at the end of the day, users are users: applicationson the desktop is what counts

blame582 · 10-04-2006, 09:53 PM

ok just to inform i think i'm gitting the hang of this in a way if i would of understood
what you guys where tellinig me to do this problem would of been solved acouple of days ago

but i think i'm gitting closer to the end by compiling ltmodem 8.30a source code to my
kernel (hope thats the right thing to call it

i just didnt relize the structure of things
i'll let you know how it turns out

Quote:

I do not know which kernel you have, did you try these
I know in your first post you were after a more recent package
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pack...ndrake/8.22a4/
there is rpmbone.net or sthg like that to consider instead of rpmfind

“Mate”, you can get a linux cd or dvd for just a few $, £, euros
I appreciate you have 9.2 at hands, but this is rather old, and in terms
of security not a good idea. You will get much more up to date software with
2005-2006-2007, even if your PC is old it should work (you can trim services),
use xfce (or whatever desktop) rather than KDE or gnome,
plus you may want Koffice or openoffice out of the box
If you struggle with the modem this is not going to help, but you can blame winmodems

Quote:
i just want to prove to the wife

Good luck with this
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/howto.html

That might help, even make you laugh, or not
Quick guide to get a girlfriend using Linux (might apply to wife?)
http://www.bunchos.com/_wp/?page_id=3

you can look at linuxadvocacy as well

The fact we had zero viruses and no blue screen of death helped here to convince,
Eye-candies a bit, but not much; openoffice performance is taken for granted,
Gimp impressed big time. Firefox and opera impressive. Transition from outlook to Kmail, I have not heard a single complaint. I have tried to explain the ethics of open source etc, but at the end of the day, users are users: applicationson the desktop is what counts

if i would of just listened to what you all were telling me i feel like such a dork now

dude i got a kick out of those web pages the wife will come around
the main reason i wanted to use linux was well its free
now i feel it far superior to windoze and i've been using windows since 3.1
i just dont really remember using it other then for games jeez that was awile ago

thanks for the help
blame

blame582 · 10-05-2006, 12:57 AM

well the modem is now working in linux but i need to config pppd <---- updated
what do i do now

anybody thanks
blame

Emmanuel_uk · 10-05-2006, 01:12 AM

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Have you set up URPMI for your Mandrake system? If yes, and it is a Mandrake package for 9.2 it will be there.
no i dont think i've seen anything for URPMI yet but i'll check into it and find out about

Did you look into that?
That was one of the first advice
visit http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
basically what it does is to help you select a place where the packages
are located. Then using drakconf the PC will download whatever application you chose
and it just will work
You get addresses like http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.f...free/9.2/i586/
One drawback is that it needs first to download the list and description
of the sofwtare.
I had a cursory look there no ltmodem package (I just searched for modem,
and not in all repositories)

Compiling is fine, just another learning point
Be sure to install your kernel source and headers (should be installed by default from you cd)
A good way to read the doc from the modem is
cd path_to_ltdmodem_uncompressed
less INSTALL or less README (Q for quit)

I like this link telling you why linux is not windows
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

Go to LQ bookmark and search for newbie there are lots of info/guide
(rute, newbie admin guide...)

Emmanuel_uk · 10-05-2006, 01:20 AM

Quote:

well the modem is now working linux but my isp doent support ppp
what do i do now

congrats

What messages do ypu get?
Make another console as root and type
tail -f /var/log/syslog (this will tell you all the system messages)
then start your modem/connection from another terminal

Really strange that ppp would not be supported
You can use kppp to setup your connection parameters
but wvdial is far superior when it comes to debugging and getting
good message error. Do the tail thing with wvdial
(wvdial on your cd I hope otherwise it becomes a circular thing)
this is wvdial for 9.2 you can download it and put it on a floppy
it may require another package
http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mir...-3mdk.i586.rpm

blame582 · 10-05-2006, 02:34 AM

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What messages do ypu get?

ok well from wvdail i get error code 10
but heres what it is in konsole

Code:

[root@localhost root]# wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

Port Scan<*1>: Scanning ttyS14 first, /dev/modem is a link to it.
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 Z -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Modem Identifier: ATI -- LT V.92 Data+Fax Modem Version 8.30
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 4800: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 9600: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 19200: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 38400: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 57600: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Speed 115200: AT -- OK
ttyS14<*1>: Max speed is 115200; that should be safe.
ttyS14<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK

Found a modem on /dev/ttyS14, using link /dev/modem in config.
Modem configuration written to /etc/wvdial.conf.
ttyS14<Info>: Speed 115200; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0"
[root@localhost root]# wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATDT9476367
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATDT9476367
CONNECT 36000 V42bis
--> Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
Welcome to Northeast Missouri Rural Telephone
login:
--> Looks like a login prompt.
--> Sending: xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx
password:xxxxxxxxxxxx
--> Looks like a password prompt.
--> Sending: (xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
ascend%
--> Hmm... a prompt.  Sending "ppp".
ppp
Requested Service Not Authorized
ascend%
--> Hmm... a prompt.  Sending "ppp".
ppp
Requested Service Not Authorized
ascend%
--> Hmm... a prompt.  Sending "ppp".
--> Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--> Starting pppd at Wed Oct  4 11:20:26 2006
--> pid of pppd: 2505
--> Disconnecting at Wed Oct  4 11:20:56 2006
--> The PPP daemon has died: PPP negotiation failed (exit code = 10)
--> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
--> I guess that's it for now, exiting
--> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 10)

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Make another console as root and type
tail -f /var/log/syslog (this will tell you all the system messages)
then start your modem/connection from another terminal

here is what i get when i run # tail -f /var/log/syslog

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Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost pppd[2842]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost pppd[2842]: Using interface ppp0
Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost pppd[2842]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS14
Oct  4 13:06:08 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is already up
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Connection terminated.
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Exit.
Oct  4 13:06:38 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: NET unregister event not supported

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Really strange that ppp would not be supported
You can use kppp to setup your connection parameters
but wvdial is far superior when it comes to debugging and getting
good message error. Do the tail thing with wvdial
(wvdial on your cd I hope otherwise it becomes a circular thing)
this is wvdial for 9.2 you can download it and put it on a floppy
it may require another package
http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mir...-3mdk.i586.rpm

well now i feel stupid guess i shouldnt of said my isp doesnt support ppp
because there using RH 8.0 on their server or thats what their web page says
so i think i dont have pppd set up at all
windows all you have to do is use create a new connection wizard select a few options and
set your phone# and password and its done
so should i use kppp to set it up? will i still be have to use wvdial to connect to the internet?
i think i will put this all down in a text file when i get dont so other
people can just use it as a ref-file

thanks again
blame

Emmanuel_uk · 10-05-2006, 03:31 AM

"kppp and wvdial do the same thing"
kppp is just a GUI. Keep going with wvdial.
You are doing great

Emmanuel_uk · 10-05-2006, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Oct 4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Oct 4 13:06:38 localhost pppd[2842]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0

I think your problem is there
I have not come accross this before. Looks like a configuration issue

do man wvdial, man wvdial.conf or google for this error messages
If nopbody else come to help, I / you can ask a mod to move the thread
to the forum dedicated to internet / communication etc

EDIT
A dumb suggestion of mine: Have you tried the "dumb mode parameter" in wvidal
if you read below there is probably some clues
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenet...html#id2561955
The PPP daemon is alarmed by the fact that all the data it receives has bit 8 set to zero. In most cases this simply indicates that the remote PPP server isn't running yet. You might still be confronted by a login prompt that echoes back all the data sent by your pppd.

Anyhow this is beyond me am afraid

blame582 · 10-05-2006, 12:23 PM

ok well here is my first post under linux

everything seems to working ok but the coonct speed isnt what i thought it would be
in windoze it connects around 52 to 40 kbps
in linux it connects @ 37333 bps

thank you for the help Emmanuel_UK and Camorri

i still think i'm going to write this all down and send it to linmodem.org for a ref
file for other windose converts seems like all the other HowTo's i read didnt explain
the fact that linux is so easy once you learn the way things are done

problem solved

Emmanuel_uk · 10-05-2006, 02:31 PM

congrats. I am impressed. Well done. This was pretty fast
what did you do? just launched pppd first?

the speed.... hum, I kind of remember in some cases non open
module for modem are on purpose limited to 37
you can try various initialisation string (copy the modems.inf file from Zinblows
for inspiration)

If you do a howto please post it here as well

blame582 · 10-05-2006, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk

congrats. I am impressed. Well done. This was pretty fast
what did you do? just launched pppd first?

the speed.... hum, I kind of remember in some cases non open
module for modem are on purpose limited to 37
you can try various initialisation string (copy the modems.inf file from Zinblows
for inspiration)

If you do a howto please post it here as well

thank you i'm pretty impressed with my self but felt it took me to long to catch
on to the way things work but i still feel that i'm learning very quick by triall and error

what i did was use kppp Gui then set the ppp commands i'm not sure what i was missing but i think it had something to do with the id commands sent when you log in
(edit=date*)
there was a file i was missing with the secret which was just my password(/edit)

could you explain a little more about zinblows and initialisation string

thanks again
blame

Emmanuel_uk · 10-06-2006, 01:09 AM

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ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK

There is something called AT commands (or Haynes or something like that)
This is the initialisation string that tell the modem
how to behave.
Sometimes by tweaking them you can achieve compression, better rate etc.
There is windows txt file probably called modem.inf with that info
in it (the other way it to set Zinblows modem in log mode
and look in the log for the string).

My experience was that this is a bit complicated and does not
always work. I have a modem that randomly accept 56k (<5%)
while in Zinblows it is always 56k