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Old 06-24-2005, 12:12 PM   #1
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New Sager 9880 Laptop


Hey guys...

Just bought a new Sager 9880 "Laptop" (i use this term lightly, this thing is a beast. weighs ~ 20lbs.)
It has:
2 x SATA 80GB HDD
1GB DDR2 400 Dualchannel
Nvida Geforce Go 6800 ULTRA
DVD +/- RW
TV Tuner
Webcam
Gigabit Ethernet Realtek RTL8110SBL
Wireless a/b/g NIC
8/1 Media Reader
4.1 or 5.1 sound

1HDD has Winblows XP Pro (for games and TV Tuner [someone told me that the Tuner doesn't work w/ Linux]).
2HDD has Mandrake 10.1 with 15GB Root, 1.5GBswap, and ~60GB for /Home

I am a total Newbie. I've played around w/ linux but never took the plunge. Wanted to. REAL bad, but I am still suckling on the teet of windows. With this, a secondary computer, i can devote fully to Linux.

I do know how to use the urpmi and rpmdrake.

So i guess my question(s) is/are:

Drivers. Main question. When i download the latest Nvidia drivers to get the best out of my card, how do i install them? Also where do i find drivers for something like my Camera (not important, but wuold be nice), Wireless NIC if needed, media reader, ethernet (if needed) and possibly sound. Is it just a matter of following the "Read Me" or "How to" that comes with the drivers? for example. Realtek has the drivers (i think for the GB-NIC) called "Linux driver for kernel 2.4.x and 2.6.x". once i download that, how do i install. and will any "Linux" driver work for my distro?

Also, once i install the Nvidia drivers, will i get full function out of my VidCard? For example. America's Army pulls 80+ FPS with all settings on high in WinXP. They have a port for Linux. Will i pull similar FPS w/ Linux at the same settings?

Also, If the install of Mandrake picks up the tvtuner card (as i think it did in Setup/install) then could i use it? if i can, anybody know what program i need?

Thanks for any info in advance.

Semper Fi
 
Old 06-24-2005, 01:24 PM   #2
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Hi phoenix !

How to use urmpi ? go to this nice site :

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

and follow the instructions. Copy and paste in a console, opened as root
the lines you will get after completing each step. Use contrib, updates, plf free,
plf non-free, jpackage is needed if you develop java apps.

rpmdrake is just a GUI to urpmi.

For your drivers : They must be in the package list you will get in RPMDrake,
just look for them. I'm not even sure if they're not already installed. Depends
if you bought or d/loaded the 10.1 distro. Anyway you can get theme with urpmi.
Don't bother to install drivers from the site, it's a PITA.

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Also where do i find drivers for something like my Camera (not important, but wuold be nice), Wireless NIC if needed, media reader, ethernet (if needed) and possibly sound.

There are programs like gphoto2 in Mandrake for which you don't need (hopefully) drivers for your camera. If you can set up Internet, your Ethernet card is recognized.
For Wireless there is NDiswrapper (I don't use wireless, so I'm not reliable on this one.). Media reader ? No problem : Check Kaffeine, Totem, MPlayer...
To set them right : install W32codecs, libdvdcss2, libdvdplay, libdvdread, libdvdnav (all these you'll find when you have installed your sources with urpmi, from
easyurpmi).

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask for other directions.
cheers

BTW, I just checked this laptop. Man, what a beauty !! It's not as good-looking as an Italian bike, but not far..

Last edited by samael26; 06-24-2005 at 01:29 PM.
 
Old 06-24-2005, 01:29 PM   #3
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Ok. I'm installing 10.1, which i dl'ed.

It was finishing the install and at the summary page. It didn't have the GB-NIC, but i tried to configure anyway (brain fart). Now i am in a Driver loop. It won't let me leave the driver configuration page and it doesn't have my driver listed. I can't get back to the summary. I've tried "Prievious", ESC, Tab, Del, BkSP, Ctl esc among others. I don't want to go through the package install again. How do i exit out of the driver config page???
 
Old 06-24-2005, 01:36 PM   #4
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Ctl-Alt-Backspace will kill X. Perhaps even have the box reboot.

Told you about d/loading drivers
 
Old 06-24-2005, 02:47 PM   #5
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LOL. so you did.

OK on my desktop i have KdeTv saa7133. In Control center under hardware, it says "TV Card". Does that mean that it istalled the drivers for it and that it will work? If i click on it it brings up an auto detect.
 
Old 06-24-2005, 03:42 PM   #6
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Check this :
http://www.mythtv.org/

There must be a package for it in RPMDrake.
You must install an app before you see if your card works.
There are other programs like this. Just look in RPMdrake..
 
Old 06-28-2005, 06:47 PM   #7
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OK. My "Laptop" sees my wireless adapter:

[Identification
Vendor: ?RaLink

Description: ?Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card

Media class: ?NETWORK_OTHER

Connection
Bus: ?PCI

Bus PCI #: ?10

PCI device #: ?5

PCI function #: ?0

Vendor ID: ?6164

Device ID: ?513

Sub vendor ID: ?5218

Sub device ID: ?26675

Misc
Module: ?rt2500]

I try to "run config tool" on it, choose wireless, and it says manually load a driver. I click next, scroll down to rt2500, click next and my screen flashes and i go back to manually load a driver and keep repeating the process. I went to the interent and downloaded the Linux drivers from the manuafacturer, but i don't know what to do with this. I saved the file in my home directory, unzipped it with Ark. The files include:

*RT2500-linux-sta-1.4.6.1.tar.gz
*Folder: "Module" (to incude many "C Source Files", a "Configure" shell script, and a "Makefile". I think that makefile has something to do with installing
*Folder: "Utility" (to include many "C++ Source Files" and a "Makefile"

If the the control center sees the above (the rt2500) doesn't that mean the dirver is installed?
On a related note, i installed ndiswrapper as above mentioned. Now what do i do with it?

My wireless network uses WPA-PSK with AE5 Encryption, ssid=off, Static IPs, and MAC Filtering. My windows uses this no problem, so i know the card supports it. So that leaves linux.

Also, can RPMDrake install drivers as packages, and how do you get the latest packages in there. I already used easyurpmi and updated media in control center. For example, Firefox, i can only get 1.0.2 in rpm drake but the latest is 1.0.4 for linux (and winblows, which i use excuslivly [firefox, not windows]). I downloaded the latest version from Mozilla but i don't know how to get rpmdrake to see it to install it.

Thanks in advance
Phoneix
 
Old 07-11-2005, 12:01 AM   #8
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2HDD has Mandrake 10.1 with 15GB Root, 1.5GBswap, and ~60GB for /Home
I have one question for Phoenix... HOW? How did you install Mandrake 10.1 on your sager with 2 SATA drives? I have a Sager 9880 (yes, it is a beast) and I am unable to get past partitioning. It will not detect my SATA drives. According to many other sources I've read, Mandrake 10.1 is not natively compatible with SATA drives. What is your secret? Did you have to do anything special to get the installation to detect your drives?

-Craig
 
Old 07-11-2005, 02:31 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by phoneix
OK. My "Laptop" sees my wireless adapter:

Also, can RPMDrake install drivers as packages, and how do you get the latest packages in there. I already used easyurpmi and updated media in control center. For example, Firefox, i can only get 1.0.2 in rpm drake but the latest is 1.0.4 for linux (and winblows, which i use excuslivly [firefox, not windows]). I downloaded the latest version from Mozilla but i don't know how to get rpmdrake to see it to install it.

Thanks in advance
Phoneix
Hum, that is the reason why I dropped Mandrake, becasue packages were not very up-to-date, and won't be in the future

because there will be just one release per year. Mandriva seems to have made the choice of more stability at the expense

of security updates.

If you have d/loaded the latest version from Mozilla, you will have to install it from source, which is not really easy. There are
lots of tutorials for it, check 'Linux Tutorials' on this site, to get you an idea of the picture.

cheers
 
Old 07-11-2005, 10:10 AM   #10
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RPM

In response to
Quote:
I downloaded the latest version from Mozilla but i don't know how to get rpmdrake to see it to install it.
AND

Quote:
If you have d/loaded the latest version from Mozilla, you will have to install it from source
You do not have to install it from source if there is an RPM available. simply download the rpm to any location, open the console, and type...

Code:
rpm -i /path/filename.rpm
Be sure all dependencies are installed prior to doing this.

-Craig

EDIT- Now that I look at the Mozilla site, I see only .tar available. So you will indeed have to compile. C'mon mozilla! Where's the RPM?!?

Last edited by craigory; 07-11-2005 at 10:41 AM.
 
Old 07-11-2005, 10:43 AM   #11
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I have one question for Phoenix... HOW? How did you install Mandrake 10.1 on your sager with 2 SATA drives? I have a Sager 9880 (yes, it is a beast) and I am unable to get past partitioning. It will not detect my SATA drives. According to many other sources I've read, Mandrake 10.1 is not natively compatible with SATA drives. What is your secret? Did you have to do anything special to get the installation to detect your drives?

-Craig
I have no idea. I dl'ed 10.1 offical dvd and installed. It picked up both my drives as sda/sdb. Windows went on my a and linux on my b. Maybe something w/ the distro being dvd? No impact no idea. Weird, because windows needed the f6 for drivers option. I was expceting a tougher time, but most was automatic. I mean, it picked up my hdd's, NIC, tv tuner (i think), my logitec laser mouse (with all functions and buttons), the keyboard/mouse features on the notebook, etc...basically everything but the 6800 Go Ultra, Sound and wireless. I think it got the wireless, it sees it, but i can't configure it. It is a rt2500. anyway, i wish i could tell you more.

Semper Fi
 
Old 07-11-2005, 02:30 PM   #12
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Re: RPM

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Originally posted by craigory


EDIT- Now that I look at the Mozilla site, I see only .tar available. So you will indeed have to compile. C'mon mozilla! Where's the RPM?!?
FYI, i went to a site (can't say cause of forum rules) that have rpms. I grabbed the Firefox 1.04 and Thunderbird 1.02 and "updated media" to use these rpms. Then used "Install Software" utility and searched for the 2 programs. Installed like a champ. Only thing is they are using the old icons (blue world for firefox and the soild blue bird for thunderbird).
 
Old 07-12-2005, 08:45 AM   #13
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firefox

When I first started using mandrake, firefox was about the only thing i could work out how to install. download from getfirefox.com, extract, and double click the installer. it's actually easier than an rpm.
 
Old 07-12-2005, 10:31 AM   #14
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I just found out that I was mistaken today. My two 100 GB HD's are not SATA. They are standard PATA drives on the Promise Controller. Does anybody have any ideas why my drives aren't detected, or what I can do to make linux see them given this new info?

-CRAIG
 
Old 07-21-2005, 12:37 AM   #15
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Is it possible your drives are running in Raid? That is the one thing that jumped out at me from your post. If not, is it possible you need the Promise controller driver??

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