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Old 05-05-2004, 01:02 PM   #16
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i never get the chance to change any options because it freezes before linux loads

how do you uninstall all of it, including lilo properly without losing windows too?
 
Old 05-05-2004, 03:32 PM   #17
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the easiest way to remove linux and lilo without destroying windows is to delete all the linux partitions from inside windows (using a partition manager like PartitionMagic or the one that comes with windows). after that you'll need to restart and boot using the Windows CD. when the wincd boots, select the recovery console. you'll get into a DOS-like enviroment... here you need to enter "fixmbr" and confirm the question you'll get with a yes ("y") to overwrite the MBR... then you can just remove the CD and hit the restart botton on your computer. after this procedure, windows will boot normally, like before you installed linux.

you could try booting into linux using "failsafe" in lilo before doing this though. if failsafe works, it will bring you into a single-user console. if you know how to you can try to fix the problem from here, or you can type "exit" and hit enter. if you're lucky, mandrake will boot into the XWindow GUI...

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Old 05-05-2004, 03:45 PM   #18
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did you get yours to boot properly yet? mine keeps crashing while trying to check the file system, am going to reinstall see if that helps
 
Old 05-05-2004, 04:01 PM   #19
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sigh...

i'm just getting more and more issues...

- i finally got it installed using "expert noapic nolapic". i put the /boot partition on my old ATA HD to avoid problems that might have occured from trying to boot from the SATA drive... put all the other partitions (root, swap and /home) on the SATA drive though. install went smooth...

- trying to boot using the default "linux-smp" option in LILO... boot stops at the line "NET: Registered protocol family 2"... cursor still blinking and the computer restarts using ctrl-alt-del, but the boot just won't get pastt that line.

- i do the failsafe boot i described in my previous post, enter "exit" and Mandrake boots into KDE without any error messages.

- i'm endlessly happy that i finally got it to work, and go to my other computer to see if i get find a solution for the boot stopping at the NET:... line.

- when i go back, the screen is black... i move the mouse... nothing happens... i press the start botton on the keyboard and get some console-style text message saying something about the swap file (i was flipping out at this point and didn't write the exact message down)... i press ctrl-alt-del and get more messages saying that the filesystems are being unmounted... computer restarts... i try the failsafe boot again... get an error message that my partition is not a valid ext2 or ext3 format... boot fails.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 01:37 AM   #20
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i got into linux! yay it was workin for 5 minutes then i tried to install wine and it froze and im back to square one

hope your having more luck Mike
 
Old 05-06-2004, 04:39 AM   #21
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yeah, i finally got it to work too... about 5 mins ago :P

for some reason it was trying to mount a windows NTFS partition onto my /home directory ... fixed that by editing /etc/fstab a bit. also fixed it so that linux doesn't look for a second SATA drive with some help from someone else on this forum... takes 20 secs less to boot now

i hope it stays stable now... we'll see

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Old 05-06-2004, 07:09 AM   #22
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got linux on again, lookin good so far *touch wood* no probs through install. i set that noprobe option you mentioned in a diff thread and removed apic=ht from the menu.lst and set nolapic on the bootloader and now it seems to work. havent tried anything apart from mozilla though yet. might just leave it how it is till this evening and i can have a proper look lol.

if your still having problems mike try updating your bios, i did that last night
 
Old 05-07-2004, 12:49 AM   #23
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mine is working great now! just finished customizing and installing all my favorite programs.

hope yours is working too.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 05:13 AM   #24
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Mike could you summarize the solutions to your problems. Since there might be other people having same kind of problems... That would actially be great habit here on this forum when someone finds the "root cause" to his original problem.
1) HW setup, 1/2 processors, motherboard, mem size, ATA/SATA, ...
2) correct boot options (nolapi?)
3) Other must be done first stuff...
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:46 AM   #25
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mine is looking good, never had one freeze/crash/problem since the last install, havnt done anything streuous with linux yet but its looking promising
 
Old 05-07-2004, 04:06 PM   #26
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nixu
Mike could you summarize the solutions to your problems. Since there might be other people having same kind of problems... That would actially be great habit here on this forum when someone finds the "root cause" to his original problem.
1) HW setup, 1/2 processors, motherboard, mem size, ATA/SATA, ...
2) correct boot options (nolapi?)
3) Other must be done first stuff...
done. see first post.
 
Old 05-24-2004, 07:39 AM   #27
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ok... i've had the same issues and it seems as though things keep getting worse and worse for me... here is my system

abit nf7-s mobo
512MB ddr2700 ram
maxtor 160GB SATA drive
geforce fx 5200 128mb

now this is only meant to be an FTP server at work, just so you know.

anyway i've been to multiple forums, and i've been told a few things. like one thing i was told was press F1 and ide=nodma noapic... that kinda seemed to work. i mean i would get things to install, but it would still crash. then i gotta a link to this thread where i saw the linux noapic nolapic which i have actually seen before but couldn't find it again to make sure that's what they said to do, but this confirms it. so i've done that, and now when i go to install i get

"error occured
base system packages not selected"

which is very very annoying seeing as how i didn't messe with anything that was check on the package screen... i just added the FTP server deal... hell i've even tried clicking everything... nothing works... so i'm very lost and very annoyed... i don't know what to do. also when it partitions i was wondering how the best way to set up partitions would be... default it puts / in a 5.68GB ext3 partition, then a tiny swap, and then the rest goes to /home in a ext3 partition. and all partitions are journaled or whatever.

if anyone could help me out with this issue that would be swell.
 
Old 05-24-2004, 07:39 PM   #28
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Old 07-07-2004, 06:16 PM   #29
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Unhappy Similar problem

I'm having a somewhat similar problem. I've posted around and googled but I still haven't found any authoritative answers. The issues in this thread seem close though...

I'm attempting to install 10.0 Official on the following system:
MB: Gigabyte GA-7VT600-P(L)
Atholon XP2500+
1024Mb
IDE 0.pri: 80Gb (shared between NTFS winxp on NTFS and FC2)
IDE 1.pri: LG-CDRW
SATA 0: 120Gb (sata controller is the via vt8237)
VID: PC Radeon 9600pro

(I'm trying to install over the Fedora partitions on IDE 0.pri)

Problem:
On first boot it could'nt even see the 80Gb IDE drive and assigned the SATA disk to /dev/hda. I thought this very odd - it even took me a while to figure out why I didn't recognize the partitions on /dev/hda - it wasn't the device I expected it to be. Note that when I boot into FC2 the IDE drive is /dev/hda and I have not attempted to mount the SATA drive.

I did a little googling and then tried loading the install disk with "linux noapic nolapic". This got me both drives but the SATA is still /dev/hda and the IDE is /dev/hde. I want to boot from the IDE. I've stopped the install at the custom partitoning each time.

Questions:
* Why is the SATA disk showing up as the first drive when the BIOS is set to boot from IDE 0?
* Can I make the installer see the IDE disk as /dev/hda?
* Can I install like this and just have it install the bootloader on /dev/hde? Will it still boot properly?
* Have I just lost my mind somewhere along the way? (bonus question)

Any insight would be appreciated. I'm not installing until I'm confident it won't screw things up.

I use the SATA as a video/scratch/data drive so I'm thinking of just resorting to removing it for the install and then reconnecting it.

Thank you very much!
 
  


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