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Old 11-22-2004, 03:22 PM   #1
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MDK 10.1 Community Newbie is going mad


Hi everybody!


I'm pretty new to Linux .
I got tired of XP and wanted to change to Linux.
I chose Mandrake because of what I've heard it is suposed to be more newbie friendly.

I downloaded the 3 Isos checked their md5sum burned them very slow made a boot floppy (because I can not boot from cd)

Made three new partitions witn partition magic:
1. Fat32 approx 7 GB
2. Linux Swap 500 MB
3. Linux EXT2 7,6 GB

My System

Intel pentium 4 2,2 Ghz
768 MB RAM
LG DVD RAM
Liteon DVD ROM

Now lets look at my problem.

I boot from the floppy to install.

I choose my language, choose my password and so on until I reach the point for the partitions.

Now no matter which option I choose it always amounts to the same:

after chooseing the partition or similar it starts with the installation and says it's reading packages and then aborts with saying the following:

An error occured
Undefined subroutine &main:: called.


Now before bringing up the installation screen when its reading the contents after pressing enter for installation rather f1 for options it says something like version missing or similar.

Now I really want to change to Linux Mandrake but this is not easy as it seems.

I really could need some help I gladly would axcept any.


Thank you in advance

 
Old 11-22-2004, 03:48 PM   #2
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I would think with your computer being a much newer computer (having a P4 CPU) it should be able to boot from the CD. Have you tried checking your BIOS settings? Also, don't use FAT32 with Linux - it's inferior and slower.

Also, for me to help you more directly - are you planning on duel booting or are you looking to boot Linux soley?
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:02 PM   #3
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What is the reason why you can't boot from your cd? It seems like you have a reasonably modern system. You may have to change some settings in your BIOS to enable you to boot from the cd.
The other thing that may be causing the problem is the way you have formatted your harddrive. The easiest way i have found is to let mandrake do its own partitioning during the install. e.g. instead of providing mandrake with the partitions you think are right, leave the space you want to allocate for mandrake unformatted and then choose the option during install that says "use free space". Mandrake will then automatically divide the free space up into the correct size partitions for you and hopefully install itself with no problems.

Just to finish, i don't pretend to know exactly what the problem is that you are experiencing but am merely providing some suggestions that may help.

The people on here are generally very helpful and you may just find someone who has had the exact same problem and has some more direct advice, so it may not hurt to wait to see if anyone else knows anything before you try what i said earlier.

Cheers and goodluck
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:03 PM   #4
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Hi

I do not know why it doesn't boot from Cd. I enabled it but it doesn't.

Anyway for now I want to use Mandrake and Linux simultaniously. when I'm more accustomed to Linux i want to switch over to it completely.
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:06 PM   #5
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Thank you all so much for your quick replies.

Oh I've tried to let Mandrake choose what it wants but the problem reocures all the time.

I really hope somone can help me here
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:06 PM   #6
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Okay, next question...

How did you burn the ISO files? You don't burn them to CD like you would any other file. When burning an ISO Image you just select the option to Burn Image, or Burn From File. It varies depending on the burning software you have.

I would agree with what was said about letting Mandrake setup the partitioning for Linux...it will do it properly and 99% without problems.
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:08 PM   #7
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Well the files were not realy Isos they were Rars containing the files.

I downloaded it from the University Esllingen here in Germany. This mirror was shown on the mandrake hompage as download source
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:10 PM   #8
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Okay - in that case you have to unrar the files you downloaded - then correctly burn the ISO's to CD.
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:12 PM   #9
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Thats what I did of course and I burned them with Nero.
Then created out of them the floopy boot disk as described in the Mandrake readme on the first disk.
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:13 PM   #10
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I would also suggest trying a different mirror which has the ISO images.

Thinking further about it - it was the entire CD which had just been copied and RARed, then just by simply burning the files to the CD won't cause it to be a bootable CD. You would need to set the settings in your burning software to make it be a bootable CD.

Simplest way though is to just download the ISO images. When the ISO's are properly burned it creates the CD as a Bootable CD.
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:15 PM   #11
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Well maybe that is the reason.

It could be after all.


Do you have a reliable mirror with the Iso images?
It's okay if it's in english so far as I know I'm able to install a other language later if I'm not mistaking?
 
Old 11-22-2004, 04:21 PM   #12
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Richtig

I'll email you a link for a mirror.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 12:17 PM   #13
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not booting from CD

I've seen modern computers that don't boot from CD and I think the problem is due to having plugged to CD ROMS on the same IDE channel, master and slave. Do you have to CD-ROM drives (DVD or CDRW?) If so, check if they're installed on the same channel. And if so, changing them (ex. having on first channel HD as master and CD-ROM as slave) and second channel (HD and second CD ROM) should resolve the problem and the computer should be able to boot from CD-ROM.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 02:20 PM   #14
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Maybe yes, maybe no....

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Naw, I don't think it's his CD Readers, if they were not assigned properly, he would have noticed them before this.

Besides, I have several systems here that all use the CD Reader and the CDR on the same strap, and I've never had problems w/them (as long as they're assigned properly). If you can see them in the BIOS, there not the problem.

Are you using a 64 bit version, or a 32 bit version, and what's that pentium - a 32 bit ??

Do you have at least 100 MHZ across the board ??

If you're not sure, just go here:

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3

and that should do it - just re-download the ISOs (and check the sums).

You could also go into your BIOS, and set the three types of Boot Devices to CD Rom - that would do it.

Hold down the delete key when you start-up, and when you get into the BIOS, go -> Advanced BIOS -> First Boot Device (set to cdrom) -> Second Boot Device (set to cdrom) -. Third Boot Device (set to cdrom) - exit and save, and let the system re-start with the new CD1 in one of your CDReaders -

That should do it....

(don't for get to set the BIOS back after the install)

Alternatively, you could try and D/L a LIVE CD and try it, like Knoppix or Morphix.... that will tell you if you can run Linux, and if it's not a loading problem, they (the live CDs) should even give you internet access.

Some flavors of Nix are just not compatible with certain set-ups, have you tried another version (like Red Hat or Xandros) ??

PM
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Last edited by Post Modern; 11-23-2004 at 02:30 PM.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 09:56 PM   #15
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Anyway for now I want to use Mandrake and Linux simultaniously. when I'm more accustomed to Linux i want to switch over to it completely.
Might I make two suggestions? First, try to get a second HD solely for your linux install. Partitioning one HD for both can cause you many headaches.

Secondly, (my preference, but mayeb not yours) forget the idea of installing a dual boot system entirely. If you have the option to cheap out and use Windows whenever you run into a problem with Linux, you will. Just scrap that Windows partition entirely and go Linux 100%. That way you will have to figure out how to do it in Linux. So long as Windows remains an easy out for you your experience with Linux will be nothing more then, "well, that was different". Since I went linux 100%, I've certainly lost some hair and had my bad days, but I can tell you- after nearly a year (January 1st)- that I can't stand Windows systems anymore and that I can do a heck of a lot more with Linux then I ever could in Windows.

Of course, I'm not a gamer.
 
  


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