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Old 01-24-2006, 01:33 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Mandriva 2006


Ive just installed this and where has the Start New Session button gone I used to be able to start a root session as well to sort problems now I have to log out as a user and log back in as root then do it all again to get back to where I was. I used to be able to F8 F7 between them but no more apparently ... This was a mistake Mandriva!!

Edit. Conclusion- Do the full install but keep your user partition.Takes less time overall and it works.
This appears to be a Mandriva upgrade problem !

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Old 01-24-2006, 02:06 AM   #2
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Did you try the "switch user" and then "start new session" in the K-menu?
 
Old 01-24-2006, 04:53 AM   #3
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You need to do some research into a "problem" before criticising a distro. As mentioned above, the option is still there and its location was changed by KDE developers and not Mandriva. Also you do not need to even login as root proper to "sort out" any problems. This can be done from your normal user account using the "su" command.
 
Old 01-24-2006, 10:53 AM   #4
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Interestingly enough, when I upgraded my 2005 to 2006, the "Switch User" and "Start New Session" items in the menu became grayed-out - unavailable. When I did a fresh install of 2006, there they were, alive and ready for me.
 
Old 01-24-2006, 03:04 PM   #5
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Did you try the "switch user" and then "start new session" in the K-menu?
Thanks -Yes switch user gave me one choice - the current user and greyed out so it could not be selected anyway.

The problem is I have not found any way to open two sessions at once .You must close the user to open as root. You dont get a choice to leave the user session open.

Since then I tried a Gnome log on and it reported config errors so I was eventually able to relaunch the kde graphical but now even the switch user has disapeared from the menu I think I will have to try a reinstall.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:14 PM   #6
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You need to do some research into a "problem" before criticising a distro. As mentioned above, the option is still there and its location was changed by KDE developers and not Mandriva. Also you do not need to even login as root proper to "sort out" any problems. This can be done from your normal user account using the "su" command.
Thanks for your reply but I'm not quite a newby so I'll criticise where and when I like thank you.

The distros make changes that seem to me to be unnecessary and this is a place they might take some feedback from.
As previous they have changed this past ability to log in multiple times including as root and I used to like that.They also seem to have some bugs in it.

I am quite aware that I can change to su - in a terminal but I don't want to do that. If the option is still there where is it ? I have looked and hav'nt found it so far.

Can you tell me what the terminal command is to do it or if it can be done that way?
 
Old 01-24-2006, 04:57 PM   #7
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Was this an upgrade or clean install?
 
Old 01-24-2006, 05:19 PM   #8
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Was this an upgrade or clean install?
I upgraded from Mandriva 2005 and only formatted the root partition. Very strange that the switch users button has gone completely now. I'm hoping not to do a complete install as it took about 2 hours as above and add to that the reconfiguring required by a reinstall will probably get over 4 to get it right
 
Old 01-24-2006, 05:38 PM   #9
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ok. So did you select the actual upgrade option in the install, or did you select the fresh install option?

If you did do the upgrade option, that's where you went wrong. There's a lot of people who have your problem when they upgraded from 2005(I even had that problem when i re-installed 2006 with an "upgrade"). If you do a fresh install without formatting your home partition, a lot of your settings should be saved. You'll just have to re-install your packages. Make sure when you do that, DON'T select the upgrade option.
 
Old 01-24-2006, 05:46 PM   #10
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You'll just have to re-install your packages. Make sure when you do that, DON'T select the upgrade option.
Thanks mate I will try that . I used the upgrade option previously.

A file sys. check brought back the switch users button but still greyed out. Oh the fun ,the fun !
 
Old 01-24-2006, 05:49 PM   #11
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Yeah, that's been a problem with everyone that has used the upgrade option.
 
Old 01-24-2006, 07:06 PM   #12
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Did a full new install and up came the Start New Session button.

The Upgrade must be checking out what you had installed for quite a while (2hours total) because I did the full install in less than 1/2 hour

Thanks for your help Gelan and Padma

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Old 01-25-2006, 02:49 AM   #13
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Thanks for your reply but I'm not quite a newby so I'll criticise where and when I like thank you.

The distros make changes that seem to me to be unnecessary and this is a place they might take some feedback from.
As previous they have changed this past ability to log in multiple times including as root and I used to like that.They also seem to have some bugs in it.

I am quite aware that I can change to su - in a terminal but I don't want to do that. If the option is still there where is it ? I have looked and hav'nt found it so far.

Can you tell me what the terminal command is to do it or if it can be done that way?
You are free to criticise where and when you like but your criticism was not justified in this instance because its the KDE develpers who changed the location of that option and not the Mandriva developers. If there is any feedback to be given about the location of the option then it should be going to the KDE devs and that of the bugs to Mandriva the distro maintainer.

I didn't make assumptions that you are a newbie and I would have posted the same thing even if I knew or thought that you were a linux/unix expert.
 
Old 01-25-2006, 05:38 PM   #14
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You are free to criticise where and when you like but your criticism was not justified in this instance because its the KDE develpers who changed the location of that option and not the Mandriva developers. If there is any feedback to be given about the location of the option then it should be going to the KDE devs and that of the bugs to Mandriva the distro maintainer.

I didn't make assumptions that you are a newbie and I would have posted the same thing even if I knew or thought that you were a linux/unix expert.
Bullshit man . Its the upgrade process that gives the problem .Upgrade being programmed by Mandriva so its Mandrivas responsibility.

<So many complaints about the bit of this post that I just removed>

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Old 01-25-2006, 06:02 PM   #15
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Bullshit man . Its the upgrade process that gives the problem .Upgrade being programmed by Mandriva so its Mandrivas responsibility.

The truth of the matter is you just thought youŽd give me a serve . An authoritorian trait. Get stuffed. Scati wena funna lo jigga jigga wena amber lapa lo moma ko wena. Nicka lo moma lo sixpence and lo momma enna nicka wena lo jigga jigga
This forum is about Linux and not your political views. All comments I made were regarding Linux and not personal attacks against you, so I do not see why you have be racist to me or make wrong assumptions about my intentions. I am black and proud of it and nothing in the world would make me want to change it. You should have made those comments in English so that everybody would know exactly what you were saying instead of trying to hide behind Afrikaans/esBhunu slang. I will not stoop to the same level as yourself, so reserve any comments about exactly how I feel about people like you.
 
  


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