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Old 05-06-2005, 08:47 AM   #1
HeLLWiZerD
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Angry mandriva 2005 LE is CRAP!


i just installed mandriva 2005 LE on my shiny new hp zd8000, and coming from 10.1 on a craptastic old dell, i must say that i'm sorely disappointed. there were several small incidents that i managed to overcome, but there are several glaring flaws..

first off, in 10.1, mounting and reading ntfs drives was a wee bit tricky, but entirely do-able. in2005LE, however, this is not the case. they've implemented a seemingly snazzy new way of mounting drives so that the folder in /mnt represents the name of the drive itself, however, if it's ntfs, it is readable by ROOT ONLY, and there aint a damned thing you can do about it. i tried unmounting the drives, changing permissions on the folders that they mount in, but as soon as i re-mount them, the permissions and ownership change back, and user accounts can't open them. i also tried changing the fstab to allow user rights, bu that also yielded no results. i tried creating links in /home/ and setting permissions to the links, but that equally came up with bubkiss. fat32 devices mount and are usable with the greatest of ease, however, and are usable by root and all user accounts.

my other complaint is with web browsing... both firefox and opera 8 have issues. firefox is incapable of going back to the last page, it instead opts to go to some gaming website about hitman, with no option of going foreward to where you were. opera 8 can go back and foreward just fine, but it randomly closes unexpectedly for no apparent reason.

i'm sure these problems can be fixed with an enormous amount of time spent, and a masters in C programming, but i'm still a newbie, and i just want the simple things to work. and external hard drives and web browsing are simple things, i expect some headaches with video editing and trying to make direct3d/opengl games work (ha!).

any help would be appreciated.
 
Old 05-06-2005, 11:24 AM   #2
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This is an unnecessary rant. You could have just asked others whether they have experienced similar problems and I am sure you could have got some help. I don't have any problems with Firefox in Mandriva 2005 LE so i am sure its something to do with your configuration. Try deleting your cache and cookies.
 
Old 05-06-2005, 02:35 PM   #3
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in Mandriva and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

Not a hardware question, and seems better suited to Mandriva -- J.W.
 
Old 05-06-2005, 02:58 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by reddazz
I don't have any problems with Firefox in Mandriva 2005 LE so i am sure its something to do with your configuration.
Neither do I, so there must be something wrong with the previous poster's config.
So far, LE 2005 is quite an easy-to-use version
 
Old 05-07-2005, 01:20 PM   #5
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something i noticed about le2005 that didn't happen before with 10.1 is that my dvd/cdrw drive start to spin each time i do something
in kde
opening konqueror
opening a shell
opening firefox
etc etc
there is a way for fix that ?

(this happen on a notebook, on another pc doesn't boot at all

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=186192
)
 
Old 05-07-2005, 03:48 PM   #6
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mandriva 2005 LE is CRAP!
HeLLWiZerD Posts: 1

I assume first post flames are either made by nuts or spammers unless they contain useful information.
 
Old 05-07-2005, 04:45 PM   #7
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Hmmmmmm...................................

I'm not so sure I'd label it as "crap".

As far as I have seen, It's the easiest to configure yet. It detected and configured my scanner, printer, Palm Pilot, and thumbdrive with no intervention from me. I was able to create a new device on my desktop and point it to my Windows XP ntfs partition and I'm now listening to mp3's on Amarok. And that was as easy as "Right Click", "Add New Device", and then show my Windows partition.

The only two issues I have had are:

1) I can't get 1024x768 resolution on my laptop. (More a problem with the chipset than the distro as I've had this problem with four distros). Works OK for the desktop but is kind of a pain for FireFox. I'll live.

2) I haven't gotten my WMP11 wireless card working yet. I am running WAP-PSK on my router and I believe from what I've read that WPA is not supported for my card under Linux. Again, I'll live.

Bottom line.............................................Don't label it as "Crap" until you learn how to use it.

And this is coming from a
 
Old 05-07-2005, 05:42 PM   #8
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Well what a statement, 2005LE is not crap, not by any means. I have had zero issues with it, and found that it was very easy to configure, maybe that's the key word, configure. Firefox just works, and works well and then you can tweak it and make it even better. I guess one of the things I like most about Linux is the fact that it requires you to learn, you have the option of changing the configuration to anything you want, with in reason. Sometimes I feel that people coming from XP expect everything to be a one click situation and Linux has come a long way in that arena but there are time when it requires you to Study things out. This remindes me of when I first installed FreeBSD and made a n00bie question on a BSD forum, the only reply that I got was a blunt RTMF. I took that to heart and have studied things out the best that I could before asking questions. Work with it and you will solve your issues, it's not a crap O/S.
 
Old 05-07-2005, 06:41 PM   #9
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By the way HeLLWiZerD

Nice TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 05-08-2005, 12:42 AM   #10
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I have problems with permisions. root can use startx but not other users. This is after a fresh install. Great distro for newbies yet still not perfect but what is?
 
Old 05-10-2005, 01:50 PM   #11
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I apologize for my previous statement, it was typed out of frustration.. on my previous laptop, i had mandrake 10.1, and getting that to work took a lot of reading, trial and error, re-installs and heartache, but i had a sense that i'd learned quite a bit. however, when i moved on to a much better laptop, i decided to go with a bigger better newer version of mandrake, and it was disheartening to learn that everything i'd learned with 10.1 was now completely useless, as it's a horse of a different color. i spent the weekend painstakingly moving all of my files off the external hard drives, repartitioning them to FAT32 (so that linux can actually use them, instead of just look at their contents), and then moving all the files back on..

This met with failure, though, while the root account can see the contents of all of these drives, user accounts are completely locked out, what's worse, changes to the permissions of the mount points by root don't take affect, even after rebooting. I changed my user account to be a member of every group except root, but this didn't help either. I'm not sure whether i can write to these drives with root or not, i forgot to check before i booted back into windows, but from what it looks like i wager i probably could.

The drives i'm using are a maxtor 250GB external FW/USB2 drive, a "crossfire" 120GB fw/usb2 drive, and a laptop hard drive in an external usb2 enclosure, all of these worked like a charm in 10.1, and being that they are recognized and seemingly configured properly by 2005LE, i'm guessing that the problem lies somewhere with the permissions, or some other unknown entity.

once again, i apologize for flaming, and will try to control myself during future endeavors. and yes, i am a noobtard at linux, just in case no one could tell.
 
Old 05-10-2005, 02:50 PM   #12
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I have had no problems with Mandriva 2005 LE on my new Laptop a Dell Inspiron. I even got the wireless working without much fuss. When you bought your laptop you did check to see how well it was supported by Linux before buying it, didn't you? It like buying a win-modem and then complaing it dosn't work under linux when all over the web it say most win-modems don't work with linux.
 
Old 05-10-2005, 03:49 PM   #13
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Problems with Mandriva 2005LE

I too have had trouble with mandriva 2005LE on my Acer 1800 series laptop

Problems:

1) I don't have sound and I don't know how to get it

2) I can't install anything from the CD, I keep getting bad interpreter errors. I fixed this on my desktop as the "sticky bit", I made this execuable for the user and now I can install stuff from the CD. The fix works on the desktop and 10.1 but not for 2005LE

3) I can't get wireless broadband but this has sorted (I have yet to solve the problem but I have a possible solution)

These are the problems so far for me

Mat
 
Old 05-10-2005, 04:26 PM   #14
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well, everything works, the drives show up and can be read from, but only by root... that's the problem, i'd much rather not be logged in as root all the time, does anyone else out there use external hard drives with 2005LE?
 
  


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