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View Poll Results: WHat do you think of Mandrakeclub?
AWESOME -- Couldn't live without it! 2 16.67%
Mandrake is a better system with club membership 2 16.67%
It's okay 3 25.00%
Could live without 2 16.67%
Total Waste of Money 3 25.00%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-11-2004, 11:36 AM   #1
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Mandrakeclub Survey


I'm a newbie to Mandrake. I downloaded and installed 10 from an ftp site. I've been considering joining the Mandrakeclub. I can't make up my mind. So if you're a member of Mandrakeclub or you have been in the past can you answer the following questions.

What's the best thing about Mandrakeclub?

Would you join Mandrakeclub?

What's the worst thing about Mandrakeclub?

Is it worth the monthly subscription?

How good are the available downloads?

Thanks

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Old 04-14-2004, 02:09 PM   #2
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Question Not Many Mandrake club Members

Must not be very many Mandrake Club Members .... No replies and only a hand full of votes...
What does that say? HMMMMM....
 
Old 04-14-2004, 07:29 PM   #3
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Well, I'm glad I joined when I did because I've pretty much been able to play with Mandrake 10 since it's first community release. I've also downloaded a copy of Mandrake Move although I don't have a usb memory stick so can't comment on how useful it is but it's a nice portable Linux distribution on a cd (could be useful testing out Mandrake & laptop compatibiltiy?).

It's nice being a club member though expensive - I was slightly annoyed at having to pay for a full year in advance rather than being able to take a 12 month monthly subscription - I probably won't join again in a hurry because of this, however, for a years membership instead of buying a copy of Mandrake 10 (Powerpack) I get to download it and any future editions of Mandrake I might have otherwise had to pay for if I really wanted them (paperback manual not included in downloads of course).

Membership has it's benefits - software in advance, powerpack version of Mandrake 9.2.1 for all subscribers & Mandrake Move. If all you want is a stable, well-tested Mandrake distribution then you should be able to get Mandrake 10 official soon anyway (May I think). My incentive to join was early downloads (I've had Mandrake 10 community for about a month already) and because I wanted the powerpack version of Mandrake which I would've had to pay for anyway.

Overall, I think you have to join Mandrake club at the *right time* to enjoy the benefits of getting early releases - for me, the right time I guess was a month ago though I hope to get other releases as & when they come if I want them
 
Old 04-14-2004, 07:30 PM   #4
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*double post*
 
Old 04-15-2004, 03:40 AM   #5
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Mandrake 10 Official is out.
 
Old 04-16-2004, 08:11 PM   #6
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If you're so inclined you can find all the mandrake updates you need and you don't need to join the club
 
Old 04-16-2004, 08:57 PM   #7
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I would never join a club that would have me as a member.

(not original, but expressive)

Things like the Mandrake club might be OK for some users, but I just cannot imagine who. For instance, Fedora with apt-get will do more for less. In fact Fedora with apt get will do way more, way faster, for way less $ (free?).

Mandrake seems to have a knack for generally ignoring their user base (paid or not), and deciding what is best for them. Would I pay for Mandrake club membership? Not in a zillion years.

But, maybe some people feel it is a value. If that is the case, then no doubt club membership IS a value for them. Hard to imagine Mandrake club will ever be the "one size fits all" of Linux...
 
Old 04-18-2004, 07:23 AM   #8
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i see the value... i got my official powerpack already installed, i got 5 cd's with commercial apps i.e firefox, java, realplayer, drivers et al... i also get rpm voting, exclusive club mirrors. good enough?
 
Old 04-18-2004, 07:44 AM   #9
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I dunno. I mean, I spent my money and so far I have not seen much of value. The problem, I believe is not that much that there isn't anything of value but that niewbees are left very much on there own. The site structure is something, well, let's just say you have to get used to it - and that may take a while (translation: it sucks). The forum is primitive and slightly buggy to say the least (guess why I am coming back to linuxquestions.org all the time), the attitute around the place a tad hostile (you have the angry new users that feel like having thrown out a lot of money, versus the "chill, what did you expect" users, that are often not all to helpful either, versus the staff which just doesn't get involved at all, from what I have seen.

Well, you have the downloads. Frankly - I haven't been able to get a single one to work. You search, you click, and it sends you around in loops for which - I am sure - there is a reasonable explaination, and if I tried really hard I would manage to figure it out but I don't really see the point because there are enough sites out there that work right on the first time.

You have the "exclusive mirrors" which aren't all that exclusive after all, if you take a second look, but they're there and that's cool too. Better check if you can get BitTorrent to work on your machine because otherwise you will not have much fun with the club either, because ISOs are only offered via torrent files (which from what you read in the forums is huge problems to a rather large crowd (including myself).

Well, there you have it. Personally - I would chill for a bit or so, and check how it develops and ask in a year or so again of whether it is worthwile to join the club. Mandrake just exited bancruptcy so there is hope around the campfire that the Club will receive a huge face-lift before to long but I am a bit pessimistic on that. Still, I like the idea of supporting the company like that rather than buying CDs that will be outdated in a Jiff. I think it will be the way of the future but as of now the Mandrake Club doesn't have teathing problems - it doesn't even have teath yet.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Old 04-18-2004, 08:02 AM   #10
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yes I've commented on the .torrent files myself, quite honestly i really believe people do not know how to use BitTorrent and configure their lan's properly, as i've said - i'm only on a 512k line and in 1 and a half days i had my 5 iso's, people must realise they must forward ports 6881-6889 to their lan ip... the only other problem i can think of is ISP's blocking those ports, generally ports in 6xxx are for p2p so that might explain it, and i wasn't using a secret supa dupa bittorrent client, i was just using the ncurses based official torrent client from a terminal.

the attitude sucks a bit too, its a forum, what are forums for? USERS, not for directors and managing directors to sit and teach someone how to run

./configure
make
su -c "make install"

these people are busy sorting out real problems and developing the next generation of mandrake products.

i always come back to this forum because i think there is better response time for threads and also because people speak better english here (lol).

the mirrors are bad too but you have to realise that community was not really a "propper release", it was more or less a beta 2, so now that official is out the mirrors and updates will return to normal.

you agree with me?

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Old 04-18-2004, 08:32 AM   #11
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Well, see: yes and no. Of course, I realize that it is very much my fault that I cannot configure BitTorrent in a way that it works, and that I cannot translate the sentence "forward ports 6881-6889 to my lan ip" into something my computer cares to understand. I also realize that the mandrake people are the really busy, very important types that do not have time to answer stupid newbee questions or comment on complaints and similar. Strangely enough, this has not stopped the people from, let's say: myopera.com to build one of the most user-friendly and well managed comercial software forums around, where you always find someone caring enough to help you out. Where you will find actual employees helping people out here and there, or asking questions if a topics seems interesting to them or just looking like they give a goddamn rats-ass about whether or not you are on this planet. Mind you this is applies for users that did pay as well as for those that did not pay.

Strangely enough, this forum too has lots of members that seem to be more patient than those in the Mandrake Club to help niewbees even with the most simple tasks.

The problem with niewbees likely is that they speak a rather different language than expert users. You say "forward ports 6881-6889 to you lan ip" They will likey say: "huh?!" Somebody writes "just untar it" and they go like, right - this is, I need to, so what - no - sorry - not with you yet." I assume that it would be nice of Mandrake if they put out a real big warning sign in front of the MandrakeClub registration page saying something like: "Okay, now listen up child, Mandrake is one of the most user-friendly GUI driven Linux distros and we are very proud of it. And the Mandrake club offers you very many advantages and is very innovative and all and we are proud of that, too. But if you cannot properly work a command line by now, just because we have giving you a graphic installer, then bugger off kiddo because this is where fun ends!"

I think that would really help keeping some of those unfortunate souls out that get really angry with the club because it promised free downloads of this and this and didn't mention that it included three free weeks of learning of how to get that goddamn BitTorrent to work.

Yeah - I think that would help
 
  


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