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Old 03-28-2004, 07:31 PM   #1
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Mandrake KDE Menu & MenuDrake are fsck'd


Has anyone else had the experience of having the KDE menus go wonky? There are one of two problems:

1. When I use MenuDrake to edit the menu, the changes aren't reflected in the K-button "Start" menu. Not immediately, not later, not when I restart KDE, not when I restart the X server. What gives?

2. Sometimes menu items will just disappear. Just like that. Especially on the Configuration menu, where KDE settings such as "Accessibility" or "LookNFeel" or "WebBrowsing" will disappear. If I start the actual "[KDE] Control Center", a.k.a. "Configure Your Desktop" (not to be confused with the "Mandrake Control Center", a.k.a. "Configure Your Computer"), then those items are also missing from the list of selection icons. All that's left are one or two icons such as "Printing". Where the heck are these menu items stored, and where can I go brute-force it as root?

On a related note, where can I get KDE documentation that tells me about actual config files in KDE (as opposed to hand-holding user manuals for the newbie)? This lack of documentation is the single most frustrating thing about KDE.
 
Old 03-29-2004, 12:01 AM   #2
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i had the same problem with 9.2, but now i upgraded to 10 and upgraded kde to 3.2 and now everything is working fine
 
Old 03-29-2004, 01:23 AM   #3
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Have you tried to type "update-menus -v" as root ( without quotes ) in a terminal console?
May be it will solve the problem
 
Old 03-29-2004, 07:30 PM   #4
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Where was I supposed to learn about update-menus?

Ah, I didn't know about update-menus! I wasn't even aware that there was such a command. Thank you for pointing this out.

On another thread, I also only recently learned about the ~/.menu directory; I had thought that everything was in the ~/.kde directory.

Here's a question: where do I look to find out more about these things? It's not in any of the books on Linux: either the ones that mention GUI's are for newbies and just tell you how to *use* the GUI, or the more advanced ones are for ubergeeks who don't need no GUI and just want to learn about all sixty-two command-line options for the "wget" command.

One thing's for sure: I won't find it in KDE documentation --all *that* documentation is good for is obvious stuff like: "to access the FroobiGoobi feature, move your mouse cursor to the FroobiGoobi button and click."

Any hints would be appreciated.

KWTm
 
Old 03-31-2004, 01:57 AM   #5
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I usually scanned the old threads in this forum where many gleaming diamond tips can be collected, thanks to all contributions by the linux community. Just be patient to read the questions and answers, and make notes on relevant issues that you are facing. Those will be a precious references in the future.

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Old 03-31-2004, 03:18 AM   #6
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Re: Where was I supposed to learn about update-menus?

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Originally posted by KWTm
Ah, I didn't know about update-menus! I wasn't even aware that there was such a command. Thank you for pointing this out.
This is actually a bug in 9.2 if you run the updates (go to mcc then package managment updates) the fix is there.
 
Old 04-13-2004, 04:07 AM   #7
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Finally, figured out where the menus are

I finally found this after Googling:

http://www.desktop-linux.net/nomenuupdate.htm

This web page finally told me where the default KDE menus are when not specified in the user directory:

--- start quote ---
KDE puts your menu items in two places:

Global Directory:
/usr/share/applnk
/usr/share/applnk-mdk (Mandrake only)

Local Directory:
/home/roy/.kde/share/applnk
/home/roy/.kde/share/applnk-mdk (Mandrake only)
--- end quote ---

Now, I wonder why it couldn't actually say this sort of thing *IN THE KDE DOCUMENTATION*???

Hope this helps other people, too.
 
Old 04-13-2004, 09:42 AM   #8
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Well this is a useful thread! I had the same problem with 9.2 and it drove me crazy, and it just happened with 10 as well. It seemed to occur as soon as I even looked at the "Menu" stuff through "Configure your Computer/System" whether I touched anything or not.

That suggestion worked fine, but I still wonder what exactly is happening with all that.
 
Old 05-11-2004, 06:34 PM   #9
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Lightbulb Thank You!!!!

This thread is excellent. I had the same damn problem myself. I am using Mandrake 9.2 and after installing the Wine rpm packages off the CD, 80% of my icons disappeared from the Gnome Footprint (Start) menu. I use Gnome instead of KDE. I ran the

update-menus -v

command as root in Terminal and voila! The icons are back. Yay! Thanks for the heads-up. I thought I would have to re-install the OS for the 6th time!!!

 
Old 05-11-2004, 07:04 PM   #10
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Where was I supposed to learn about update-menus?
endquote

You are supposed to learn about it here, of course.
That is why we are all here.
 
  


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