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Old 07-14-2004, 07:04 AM   #46
silverback011
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Like I said just stick with XP.

I read your posts fine. I have a processor and some RAM. That tells me nothing as far as finding your problem is concerned. Everyone who has a computer has these two items. That does't come close to helping. A machine locking up or becoming unstable can be caused by many things. Incompatible hardware is a common item. Just because it works under 9.2 doesn't mean it's not the hardware either. It may not have configured all you items because it did not recognize it. Did you check that? I know you will want to blame linux for the driver thing, but remember we get that info from the manufacturer. Sometimes they don't share. Oh, there was a time when drivers were a problem for Windows also for those of us who remember that. I would argue that they still have that problem.

As far as your driver is concerned try the company web site, ISP support is sketchy, did you try google, can you use the Ethernet connection (RC45) instead of USB? Throw us a bone here.

There are very experienced people in this forum that always help even people like yourself. Meaning persons who don't provide enough information and who come in hostile from the beginning.

<quote>I paid exactly the same for my Windows XP Pro, Microsoft Office, Photoshop etc as i did for my last couple of Linux distros</quote>

Then you pirated them. Microsoft Office costs more than any linux distro I am aware of. Unless your talking those costly enterprise editions.

From your posts and lack of information provided in order for us to actually give you some help I STRONGLY suspect along with "zaharia" that your are indeed a TROLL. Feel free to prove me wrong.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 09:11 AM   #47
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Windows XP Pro costs $129.99 retail and MS Office 2k3 costs ~$300 retail. Linux is at most ~$60 (least thats the highest I have seen besides the huge corporate packs that come with support and everything).
 
Old 07-14-2004, 09:35 AM   #48
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You know I was a newbie less then 2 years ago. I have only been running linux for 2 years. I remember the frustrations I encountered. ALL of them were due to my inexperience and pure lack of knowledge. I found forums and read....and read...... and read in order to LEARN how things work in Linux. I consider myself still a newbie. The learning is a continual process.

What I find troubling is the fact that new folks load up a linux box, it has problems, and they blame the distro. I don't get it. Because of their lack of knowledge, Its the distro's fault??? Give me a break. We are all basically running the same kernel(in one form or fashion). Its the additional packages and apps that affect how our boxes run. I never posted a single question in the first 6 months of learning linux. I dug the answers out of forums like these and just read man pages and how-tos.

I guess what I'm trying to say is; if you have a question ask it. Don't start off by flaming the distro. Mandrake has millions of users and a newbie's problem is not a result of the distro being crap. When a user asks a question and provides as much detail as possible the question is usually answered in one or two posts. But when you have someone just flame and moan about their problem without actually providing any detail you end up with a post like this one thats 4 pages long and the question/problem is still not answered. If you want an answer PROVIDE detail. If you want to troll .....move on.

I would suggest using some of the resources available to you on Mandrakes site. The "Campus" is excellent for someone who is new. You can work at your own pace and learn linux. There is tons of documentation on Mandrakes site. Its up to you to learn and solve your problems. Linux is not Windows(thank god) . The learning curve is pretty steep but if you stick with it you'll better for it. It doesn't matter what distro you choose, just stick with it until you learn how to make it do what you want. jumping from distro to distro is sometimes counterproductive. Master one then move to a more complex one. Master Mandrake and the RPM way of things then load up a Slackware or Gentoo and learn their way. Its addictive. You'll also be a guru by the time you are done.

If you aren't willing to do any of the above then Linux may not be for you. You may be better off with Windows. There is nothing wrong with that either as linux is not for everybody. Thats the hallmark of linux .......Choice.

PDR60
 
Old 07-14-2004, 09:37 AM   #49
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RE: Adam_equip, sir you are a true gentleman. Keep up the good work.

RE: amosf, i suggest you follow your own advice son.

RE: courtrrb, i'm "buffaloed" by nothing. I'm loyal only to what works with the minimum fuss, as i've said already. I've lost count of how many Windows XP's i've installed on systems and i can count the problems i've had on the fingers of one hand. Most serious fault i've come across was when a Windows XP Pro refused to install the "pala" font file for some reason. Needless to say install still went through to complete yet another rock solid system, and the file was manually added within 2 minutes of install.
I don't even get call outs for problems with Windows XP (apart from when their kids delete random files) but previous Windows were a real bitch, especially 98 *shudders* Now i hate to echo the thoughts of earlier views on here but "if you have stability problems its probably your hardware, rather than a problem with the OS". Two years and i'm still awaiting my first XP crash...

RE: Josh328, fire with fire eh. I like it, grrr manly. But seriously, Microsoft and Bill Gates are a massive figure of hate for hackers and similar morons. And as i have said, they don't use Windows, they use Linux. Shoot themselves in the foot? Nah. Wise up junior.

RE: chefmark, if you have ordered a computer from me you pay for the privilege of hardware well built. I don't force any particular OS on customers; i like to offer them the choice. If only Dell and PC World had such an open attitude maybe Linux would be taken seriously. I offer free install to my customers for any OS and softwares they want. This is almost exclusively Windows XP these days which makes my life much easier. Anyway, the answer to your question depends on the customer and where they got their software from, as i refuse to enter into the many licenses and legal problems that distributing causes.

RE: silverback011, my modem cost me about 15 from ebuyer. I don't go for 100 branded devices as they use the same chipsets as cheap and nasty models, much like Prada selling cotton tees for 90. As i've stated already i bought this long before Linux was considered. The first thing i did was check the Origo site for drivers but no luck, as the ISP said. No ethernet, USB only, so no bones i'm afraid. And i'd be careful who you slander, you could get in trouble. "you pirated them"

If a troll is someone who shows the faintest signs of personality then i'm in the club. If some of you feel threatened by words on a screen then you really need to look in a mirror dudes.

over and out
 
Old 07-14-2004, 10:09 AM   #50
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haha.. ok, so let's just get everything straight... Windows is less secure than Linux simply because some hackers stole the source code, but we are not going to consider that Linux source code is openly available because the hackers are using Linux themselves? haha... hackers are hackers, my friend.... if they want to hack a Linux server, they'll try to do it... regardless of what OS they use....
let me fill you in.... Linux is 100 times more secure because of the structure of the UNIX influenced file system and the fact that a huge community of developers have had the opportunity to build it, rather than a team of Easterners that Bill Gates hires.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 11:18 AM   #51
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RE: Josh328

Damn Josh, i'm surprised you could type properly in between "haha". Quite simply there is no motivation for hackers to damage any Linux. It's accepted as the underdog to the evil Gates empire. As you say, Linux is open source and Windows is firmly the opposite. I'm glad you say that because it underlines how motivated these individuals are against Microsoft. Also, you say that Windows is inferior because its built by a "team of Easterners"? oooo racism in Louisiana? Surely not.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 11:27 AM   #52
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hackers are not after the OS, they are after content... they don't care what it's running... underdog? even microsoft has been found using FreeBSD servers for Hotmail... Even they have commented on how Linux is becoming a strong opposition to Windows... Please excuse the "haha's" as this is all quire humorous to me.. i just don't understand what you're trying to accomplish... even most Windows advocates would disagree with 90% of what you are saying.. you're just arguing for the sake of arguing... and geez... stop the attempted degradation and patronization... you are no more intelligent than the least intelligent person on this forum... no need for the attitude my friend...
 
Old 07-14-2004, 11:30 AM   #53
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I was right.....Troll. No more wasted bandwidth on "xxvm1". Feel free to fight with others here at the forum. You didn't come here to get help. That is obvious now.

Enjoy.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 04:15 PM   #54
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RE: Josh328

"Hackers are not after the OS, they are after content" i never specified what they were after and i don't care what they're after it compromises security for all users later on. Like it or not Linux as a home OS remains firmly the underdog in the market. Consumers are given a choice between a free OS like Linux or pay a vastly inflated price for Windows and they choose the latter. That says it all.

"Stop the attempted degradation and patronization... you are no more intelligent than the least intelligent person on this forum" Sorry that will be my "inferior Eastern mind" i suppose. I guess a Cambridge University education doesn't count for much in that intellectual haven Louisiana. I'll let you get on with carving a new cross to put on Bill's front lawn.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 04:50 PM   #55
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Quote:
Originally posted by silverback011
I was right.....Troll. No more wasted bandwidth on "xxvm1". Feel free to fight with others here at the forum. You didn't come here to get help. That is obvious now.
yep
 
Old 07-14-2004, 06:01 PM   #56
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I'm sorry... I must have been misinformed... I wasn't aware that a school or even location determined level of intelligence... guess I'll have to move... Even if it did, you have no idea what kind of education I have... If you want to know details, email me, but I work with physicists from MIT and CIT (and many other high level schools) and elsewhere throughout the world everyday on what can (for the most part) be considered the most advanced physics research and experimentation in the world to date.. Excuse me that the most advanced equiptment is located in Louisiana...

To cut the immature arguing out (in which i admit taking part)... Linux is definately not as easy as Windows, you are correct. If you are looking to put a CD in and in 30 minutes have a decently stable system (especially a desktop) by all means, go with XP. However, if you have the time and interest to play with Linux till you get it right (as it is very picky with hardware) it is fact that it is built on a more stable and secure kernel and file system. It has taken me some time to get MDK10 how I want it, but now that I am familiar with Linux, I feel confident that I could do it again just as fast as an XP installation. It's just a completely new world..

So.. If you are intersted in the challenge, feel free to ask lots of questions.. The people on this forum really know their stuff!

Good luck with it.. have fun...

Josh
 
Old 07-14-2004, 06:51 PM   #57
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don't feed the trolls.
Administrators, it's time to close this useless tread. Even better, remove it. It's just taking up valuble space.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 08:22 PM   #58
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While I think he had a real problem he don't seem to be interested in answers but only fighting.

Last edited by spoody_goon; 07-14-2004 at 08:24 PM.
 
Old 07-15-2004, 03:05 AM   #59
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[/B][/QUOTE] I refer you people to the bottom paragraph "Problem 2".

XXvm1 is a troll for sure

I am running MDK 10 Community and have faced a few probs but mostly me not ReadingTFM enough.

I also like Windows 2000 Pro but we all have our problems.
 
Old 07-15-2004, 03:46 AM   #60
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Originally posted by xxvm1
RE: Josh328

Damn Josh, i'm surprised you could type properly in between "haha". Quite simply there is no motivation for hackers to damage any Linux. It's accepted as the underdog to the evil Gates empire. As you say, Linux is open source and Windows is firmly the opposite. I'm glad you say that because it underlines how motivated these individuals are against Microsoft. Also, you say that Windows is inferior because its built by a "team of Easterners"? oooo racism in Louisiana? Surely not.
I'm i the only one here not understanding the motivation...
So what is that they want to do???
Hack windows to make it opensource???
What for???

xxvm1 i'd suggest some for you to learn about linux coz all i see is a who doesn't have arguments.
 
  


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