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Old 07-13-2004, 06:37 PM   #31
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You should just stay with WinXP.

You pay how much for XP? How many programs come with it? Can you do word processing, programming, and a huge number of other things with it like linux with a default install? No, you can't. And don't give me this it came with the machine and I didn't pay anything for it BS. You did.

Oh yeah, for the record WinXP is a huge gaping hole of security problems. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not done any security checking on it. It needs a LOT of customization before it can be safely used on the web. Unfortnately many linux distros have issues too, but nothing like XP. If you are one of those people who firewall off all of the ports with XP you'll find that it doen't work as well. Why? It has to call home to put it simply. Why is that in there?

http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm

I am impressed you got any help at all. You didn't provide much info for anyone to help you. What caused your problem? Who knows. Some basic information is required. OS version, what you did to try and fix it, dmesg output, etc. etc. I would like to also mention that unlike Windows a re-installation is not the best way to fix you issues.

Obviously you just want to point and click and have it work. So many people tell me that Windows always installs perfectly. Yeah, sure it does. That is why I have spent many weeks trying to get it installed for people who couldn't get it to work. It doesn't just work all the time. That is a myth.

Since I don't care to be nice about this it is my recommendation that you stay with WinXP. I hope you enjoy having to buy new hardware just to use the new "Longhorn" release.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 07:21 PM   #32
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Hey amosf how do u turn off the arts sound driver I don't see it. Thanks u can tell me on what ever message board you would like.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 07:34 PM   #33
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Easiest way is to use the KDE Control Center and go down to the sound -> sound system menu item and then in the sound system window just uncheck 'enable sound system'

You will still get sound from all the apps, tho some may need to have their driver option changed.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 08:05 PM   #34
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Hey xxvm1 you say I'am ridiculous when you come to a Linux forum and say win98 is more stable then Mandrake 10.0 with out giving any facts! Your surely don't have a clue about Linux and by your LOVE of windows you never will. It sound more like if it can't be fixed with the push of a button or setting some check mark in a dialog box than it's buggy. You make a perfect windows user. If your not able to give any details about your hardware I would not want one of the systems your building because it's not important enough for you to specify what the hardware is when a problem arises.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 08:24 PM   #35
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Quote:
Originally posted by Prisonnet
Do you mean the community version is a beta, or the beta of the community version?
Again, is the community version a beta, or are you referring to a beta of the community version?
 
Old 07-13-2004, 08:27 PM   #36
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Hey Tim that might also fix my wolfenstein problem I will redownlod it later
 
Old 07-13-2004, 09:04 PM   #37
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I've been using linux for only the last 2 months, but I have tried mandrake 9.2, mandrake 10.0, SuSe 9.0 and SuSe 9.1. In those 2 months, my computer has crashed 6 times -- 5 times when I was booted into windows XP playing games, and once in Suse, but that was recoverable through SSH.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 09:26 PM   #38
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RE: courtrrb & silverback011

Hey courtrrb, let's start with me pointing out where i am right. I stated fairly bluntly that some people in here were so annoyed with my thread title that they would go ahead and insult me without reading the post. I'm afraid you have been shown up as one of these people sir. My proof? I stated very clearly in my post (#7) that i was running a Windows XP dual boot.
I also stated very clearly that i was running an AMD Athlon XP3200+ and 1024Mb DDR400 Crucial memory. If you had been able to see through your red mist, you would not have said "let me get this straight, you're running windows 98 on 1024mb of memory?" and now you ask for my hardware again. Tut!

Now silverback011 dear. "You should just stay with WinXP" well done you got further than courtrrb up there! But then you go and ruin it by saying "don't give me this it came with the machine and I didn't pay anything for it BS. You did." I'm afraid you've fallen foul of the very same post (#7) as courtrrb. Now take a moment. Breath. Calm down. I stated clearly that i build computers, and that i built my own. So don't worry i won't be giving anyone the "it came with the machine BS" like i have one of those nasty Dell heaps.
I paid exactly the same for my Windows XP Pro, Microsoft Office, Photoshop etc as i did for my last couple of Linux distros, and i know which were better value! I presume when you said XP has to "call home" you meant activation? It doesn't need to do this in order to be activated, but it is one option. You're right it does need a bit of attention to make it safe on the net, thanks to the morons that roam the information super highway. But nothing a firewall, turning off silly defaults like remote control and a bit of common sense doesn't solve.

My main strength comes in my complete and utter self-centred attitude. I'm not loyal to Microsoft brand for anything. I'm not loyal to any Linux distro. I am not loyal to any brand in any sense anywhere. I am the 21st century consumer and it's all about me me me. So it's simple when it comes to deciding who is best out of Windows XP and a Linux distro...whichever one works with the minimum fuss and effort. Gold star to mister Gates. Windows is so good, it was as if it was written by a multi-billion dollar company with an army of professionals at hand! But as i said, i'm the 21st century consumer so i'm not going to chose between Windows XP and my Mandrake 9.2. Hell no. I'm going to have my cake and eat it! I'm dual booting. Windows XP will of course always be my main OS, but Linux is a good hobby project to have. But just like building a model boat, i won't be taking it out to sea!

Now first to give me my driver wins a weekend at computer camp, 3 2 1 go!
 
Old 07-13-2004, 09:55 PM   #39
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I see that M$ got your buffaloed too. WinXp is so good are you kidding now who ridiculous. Like I said before I have a WinXp here and it's the buggiest OS I have ever seen in the last 24 yrs. In the last 6Months I switched 34 different people to Linux all from XP they were long time window users and they had nothing but problems the the OS. 2 of them didn't have any Internet connection so it wasnt due to virus. So please don't try to give me the bs that WinXp is soooo good. Because after dealing with the OS I know better. Rember at one time it was reported the WinXP had over 65000 bugs in it and you payed for the privelge of having them. If you having problem with a driver check with the company that built or check out this link for the driver:
http://translate.google.com/translat...D%26ie%3DUTF-8

Now get of your high horse .
 
Old 07-13-2004, 10:44 PM   #40
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Ok every one needs to calm down and remember this site is here to help each other not get into arguments.

We have a good answer now please be nice.

Last edited by spoody_goon; 07-13-2004 at 10:46 PM.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 11:10 PM   #41
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Well, IMO the community was a beta release, or at least a RC.

And I was having trouble with RTCW with artds as I recall.
 
Old 07-13-2004, 11:27 PM   #42
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I'd skip this thread guys, he's trolling...
 
Old 07-14-2004, 03:58 AM   #43
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reality check

look this guys a bit frustrated as most people who first start using any linux distro are.

there are two causes
1 linux takes a fair while to set up and even longer to get a good grasp of
2 No distro is anywhere near as stable as you've heard for countless linux hacks.

I run suse 9.0 and it's not bad by any means on the right hardware. it is not as stable as windows xp and more stable than windows 98. Installation and setup are are great especially for anyone planning to run samba with acl support as it's all in there.

don't flame this dude i can relate to how he's feeling
 
Old 07-14-2004, 04:33 AM   #44
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this thread is hilarious... truly amusing... i just COULD NOT read it without posting one thing i found quite funny in xxvm1's attempt at intelliegence and OS genius...

quote - "...i agree with you that Microsoft loses points because its security is poor. However, remember that the reason for this is that some people decide to steal Microsoft source code prior to its release..."

do you not understand that Linux is open source? EVERYONE has access to the source code. A couple of hackers get their hands on Windows source so that's why it's less secure? it makes no sense... Anyone interested can analyze Linux source code, yet it remains 100 times more stable and secure than Windows.... if you want to bash Linux, at least use valid arguments; And why the hell would you come here to do it? haha... go hang out on an XP forum... i'm not sure those exist though... I have an idea.. just email Billy himself!!

keeping the amusement going...
Josh
 
Old 07-14-2004, 05:46 AM   #45
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Quote:
Originally posted by xxvm1


Now silverback011 dear. "You should just stay with WinXP" well done you got further than courtrrb up there! But then you go and ruin it by saying "don't give me this it came with the machine and I didn't pay anything for it BS. You did." I'm afraid you've fallen foul of the very same post (#7) as courtrrb. Now take a moment. Breath. Calm down. I stated clearly that i build computers, and that i built my own. So don't worry i won't be giving anyone the "it came with the machine BS" like i have one of those nasty Dell heaps.
I paid exactly the same for my Windows XP Pro, Microsoft Office, Photoshop etc as i did for my last couple of Linux distros , and i know which were better value! I presume when you said XP has to "call home" you meant activation? It doesn't need to do this in order to be activated, but it is one option. You're right it does need a bit of attention to make it safe on the net, thanks to the morons that roam the information super highway. But nothing a firewall, turning off silly defaults like remote control and a bit of common sense doesn't solve.
(Bold bit by me)

I presume that when I buy a computer from you with XP pro, MS Office and Adobe Photoshop pre-installed I will get the licenses for those apps.

Otherwise, I'll go for: *any distro*, Open Office and the Gimp and save me some serious $$$$
 
  


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