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Old 09-19-2004, 01:50 PM   #1
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Mandrake 10.1 threads, very few


So I'm going to make three assumptions about Mandrake 10.1 Community Edition

a) it's running really well (I hope) that there are no problems to report, unlike Mandrake 10.0

or

b) nobody has gotten around to trying it and posting a review or their impressions of it. I only saw like two threads about Mandrake 10.1.

or

c) it has trashed the users computer so bad that nobody is able to go online to report about this problem

I hope it's a) because I'm still using Mandrake 9.1. 9.2 was a disaster for me, and I decided to skip 10.0 since there were too many posts about people having trouble with it.
 
Old 09-19-2004, 02:40 PM   #2
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I suspect a) and b). Those that have tried it simply have a more up-to-date system than 10.0, and those that haven't didnt like then Community and then Official release method, though it's required for Official to have fewer bugs (Community needs to be tested people :P )

FWIW 9.1 and then 9.2 got better and better for me. Try them with all the updates/bugfixes and they're fine. I don't think I've had as many bugs with 10.0 as with previous releases too!
 
Old 09-19-2004, 08:00 PM   #3
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Hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread a bit, but my question still has to do with MDK10.1

Anyone knows whether we'll be able to update MDK10 Official to MDK10.1 via urpmi?


Thanks!
 
Old 09-20-2004, 12:52 AM   #4
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I'm waiting for 10.1 official... Don't know whether I'll install it on this box straight away tho as it's working fine since I went to a generic kernel...
 
Old 09-20-2004, 12:52 AM   #5
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I'm waiting for 10.1 official... Don't know whether I'll install it on this mdk10 box straight away tho as it's working fine since I went to a generic kernel...
 
Old 09-20-2004, 05:06 AM   #6
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try: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

good luck!

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Old 09-20-2004, 09:07 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by fulat2k
Hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread a bit, but my question still has to do with MDK10.1

Anyone knows whether we'll be able to update MDK10 Official to MDK10.1 via urpmi?


Thanks!
Yes you can, just change your urpmi list to version 10.1 look voor easyurpmi on google. Well see the message above this one

Last edited by eisman; 09-20-2004 at 09:08 AM.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 09:20 AM   #8
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fulat2k:

try: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

good luck!

Tetractis
Oh cool Didn't know easyurpmi updated their version list. I'll just wait till 10.1 is available and then try updating.


Thanks!
 
Old 09-20-2004, 12:47 PM   #9
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Yes you can, just change your urpmi list to version 10.1 look voor easyurpmi on google. Well see the message above this one
Are you saying that I can change my URPMI list to version 10.0/10.1 and I can update my Mandrake 9.1? The thing is that I need to update some software to newer versions, but URPMI always gives me the same old software version. For example, k3b, XMMS, and Xine. Everytime I URPMI them, I get the old versions of the software. I have tried updating my URPMI list, but I still get the old version of the software. And as we all know, it's impossible to compile in Mandrake.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 01:14 PM   #10
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WTF? Impossible to compile? Tell that to my Fluxbox binaries. Simply using ./configure --prefix=/usr solves most compiling/installing problems. For most others check you have the -devel version of a package for its headers and code that you're compiling against, rather than library object code.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 01:20 PM   #11
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So I'm going to make three assumptions about Mandrake 10.1 Community Edition

a) it's running really well (I hope) that there are no problems to report, unlike Mandrake 10.0
In fact, 10.1 seems to run a bit better than 10.0 (faster boot/login/KDE), with the exception of these annoying bugs I have encountered (latest updates of packages yesterday):

1) There's a problem with logging in to KDE using kdm or mdkkdm. Logs in fine with xdm though. The file kdmrc was apparently altered (for the latest xorg-X11+dependencies?). Solution...replaced current kdmrc with one from kdebase-3.2.3-95.

2) Latest xorg-X11, crippled my 3d acceleration...from 3200fps average to 900fps average in glxgears and 100fps-120fps to 30fps-50fps in cube/torcs/trigger. Solution...downgraded xorg-X11.

3) K3b-0.11-16-1 gives incorrect burn speed and data size. Solution...wait for it to get fixed, but otherwise, k3b works as expected.

4) I will let you know if I encounter any other bugs or you can go to www.qa.mandrakesoft.com and see what other people have/are experienced/experiencing for themselves.


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b) nobody has gotten around to trying it and posting a review or their impressions of it. I only saw like two threads about Mandrake 10.1.
I guess since it's still a RC, and bugs are still found on a daily basis, people are busy testing...give it some time and the closer we get to the final release, more threads will be posted.


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c) it has trashed the users computer so bad that nobody is able to go online to report about this problem
Well, maybe some, but I'm posting this from 10.1 CE/Cooker and haven't experienced any real downtime since testing with a installed 10.0 OE, then updating from 10.0 OE to B1, to B2, to RC1, and to CE. And I use this box for my everyday tasks. From internet, gaming, word processing, video/audio encoding/editing, and what have you.


Oh, btw, I would strongly advise you to not update 9.1 to 10.1...there are too many changes in the packaging/system. Better off to install 10.x xx and update it from there using community/cooker sources.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 01:58 PM   #12
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WTF? Impossible to compile? Tell that to my Fluxbox binaries. Simply using ./configure --prefix=/usr solves most compiling/installing problems. For most others check you have the -devel version of a package for its headers and code that you're compiling against, rather than library object code.
I have not tried the --prefix=/usr line for the ./configure and will check that out next time I try to compile something myself.

From my personal experience, I have been unable to compil popular programs (k3b, xmms, xine, gaim, mplayer). I have made some threads asking for help, but not ONE has gotten solved, despite people's attempt to help. I have found from my personal experience is that the only way to install applications in Mandrake is either RPM or URPMI.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 02:00 PM   #13
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Thanks for the feedback, estatik!
 
Old 09-20-2004, 02:39 PM   #14
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Talking

Installed it this morning on a box that I have a partition on just for "try out" purposes. Bit torrents apparantly were giving a lot of people fits this weekend for disks 1-3, myself included. That may be slowing up comments. This is the first time I've followed a release all the way through the beta cycle and from what I got to play with this morning most everything seems good to go.

I had done an upgrade from 10.1 beta 2 to 10.1 RC1 and had no issues with the upgrade itself. This time I went ahead with a clean install. I went with the default package selections and the install took about 25 minutes. (Box is an old Dell Dimension XPS R450 with a Tualatin 1.2 GHz, 384 MB PC 100 RAM, 12 GB hard drive with Win 98 on a 7 GB partition and the rest used for my "experiments") The install went very smoothly with no issues. (As opposed to the betas, which kept locking up at trying to set up my LaserJet 1200). After reboot the only hardware issue I had was my sound card. This was actually expected. When I upgraded this computer with the Tualatin processor, my sound card is misidentified not only by EVERY Linux distro I've tried on it, but also in windows. It's easy enough to fix (using the snd-cs4232 driver instead of the snd-cs42xx driver) so I don't count this as a strike. All other hardware worked fine with no tweaks. Checking out the software, I started OpenOffice. Nice new startup logo and startup took about 20-22 seconds to a blank document. Seemed a lot faster. This was the first time I had just accepted the default packages so I saw a couple of new ones that I was unfamiliar with. A multimedia program called Rosegarden (which is at a version 0.99) would not start. The default movie player is now Kaffeine instead of Totem and there is a new audio player that looked real sharp. I don't remember the name right off.

Anyway, so far so good! I just might have to go ahead and put it on my box at home instead of waiting for 10.1 official. So far I have to say B+.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 10:43 PM   #15
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I just installed 10.1 community edition, and after using it for about 24 hours i would have to say that its a huge improvement over 10.0, i seemed to have many stability issues on my laptop with 10.0 and the new 10.1 seems to run much quicker and im yet to have a single issue with it. I haven't tried my wireless setup yet with ndiswrapper, but i will have a go later.
 
  


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