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Old 03-30-2004, 01:03 AM   #1
LiquidRezin
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Loss of eth0 and soundcard drivers in Mandrake 10.0


OK, this happened more than once, so I'm beginning to get annoyed. I dual boot between win2k and linux quite frequently (I only use win2k to play games and mix with Traktor DJ Studio). A weird problem that occured for the 2nd time now is that I lose my eth0 and soundcard drivers in linux. I can tell because I can't connect to the net and there's a red slash on my mixer volume control. The only solution (which i figured out for myself) was to reinstall/reconfigure the drivers in the "Configure Your Computer" in the system menu... Has anyone run across this weird issue? This is the 2nd time this has happened in 3 weeks so it's not like a daily occurence, but annoying nonetheless. Thanks.
 
Old 03-30-2004, 03:23 AM   #2
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Are you accessing your linux partition from XP? This has done all sorts damage to my Linux box (@ least when I used to dual boot).
 
Old 03-30-2004, 07:33 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by Digit0
Are you accessing your linux partition from XP? This has done all sorts damage to my Linux box (@ least when I used to dual boot).
No, when I'm in 2k my linux partition isnt even visible (i dont know how it would be either since I didn't download anything to make it visible, nor do i want/need to acccess my linux partition through win2k).
 
Old 03-30-2004, 05:39 PM   #4
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Mandrake 10 RC1 did the exact same thing to me. I had to re-find my eth0 card every time I booted into linux.

I re-installed it, just for fun :>, and made sure that my NIC was "seen" during the re-installation (network configuration option), and now it works without fault.

Pretty smart getting all us thousands of little trained minions, Er.. beta testers, to find these things and report them...

Good Luck,

Edcutis
 
Old 03-31-2004, 08:14 AM   #5
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Reported failure of eth0 but the card still works

I don't know if this is in the same vein as your comments but when I upgraded 9.2 to 10.0 comunity edition I get a failiure when bringing up eth0 on boot. When I go and try to use the internet though it works just fine. I look at ifconfig and the address has been grabbed from the router. Any thoughts as to what is happening?
 
Old 03-31-2004, 08:32 AM   #6
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Yeah its a weird problem, also I found that when this happens and i reinstall the drivers and boot into win2k, my windows can't find my tv card so i have to reinstall that...odd to say the least
 
Old 03-31-2004, 11:25 PM   #7
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Unhappy Loss of eth0 on u/g to 10.0 card dependent

I read somewhere (maybe on www.linuxquestions.org?) about the default kernel for Mandrake 10.0's installer having buggy/failed support for the tulip module which drives DEC's 21041 and the like. The Mandrake 10.0 installer defaults to 2.6.3-4mdk, but going to the options on install lets you choose between kernel alt0, 2.6.3-4mdk, and alt1, 2.4.25-2mdk. With the 2.6.3 kernel, I had eth0 fail on boot/install. With 2.4.25 kernel, I had eth0 support _during_ install, and indeed was able to start (but chose not to complete) a network install from a ftp server!

Alas, I have yet to have the snd-emu10k1, emu10k1, nor any other module squeeze so much as a peep from my SB Live! value sound card using either of the 10.0 distro's kernels. And I have generated custom versions of both 2.4.25 and 2.6.3, to no avail. I "upgraded" from Mandrake 9.1, where sound worked fine on emu10k1, and my eth0 was just peachy, too. I remember having to do something to KDE 3.1 to get sound way back when I installed it, but I didn't have any sound problems on 9.1 since then.

Next question: why try to fix what isn't broken? Answer: FOR THE FUN OF IT! Honestly, I've learned beaucoup in the past four days. I am afraid that the ultimate fix for my sound will be "upgrading" to 9.1. I don't think I have the cajones to try 9.2 after this 10.0 experience. I can go to 9.1, and then upgrade the things that matter - KDE mainly. Maybe I'll even try to compile a custom kernel - not too unpleasant if I can use sound and ethernet while doing so.

If you read this far, be advised that the "newbie" under my name there to the left isn't wholly accurate. I ran Slackware back in '95, installed off of floppies I had downloaded over a 14.4 kbps modem from sunsite, one per night! The whole distro was over 30 floppies, with X and EMACS.

Alright, I'll shut up.

The best free linux book I've seen so far: Paul Sheer's LINUX:
Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition (Version 1.0.0)
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.tar.bz2
(He also wrote the terminal editor cooledit, by the way.)
 
Old 04-01-2004, 06:29 AM   #8
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Since installing 10.0 at home and at work I've had similar problems -eth0 'fails' on boot up according to the messages on screen but is there up and running on completion. I upgraded from 9.2 to 10 and so it used all of my previous settings for the network.

Sound was a bit more confusing in that I could get output as long as it was from the PCM or Mic sources; Line wouldn't work at all. Neither was recording using arecord, although arecord -l and arecord -L showed up the various devices and cards OK. Eventaully, I found various software switches hidden away from the simple Volume Control but visible with Alsamixer or amixer. One switch was to make the line input a surround output (obvious really!) and the other was a Capture switch which has to be 'on' to record(even more obvious when you find it!) Having found and set these, everything works fine.

This is using snd-intel-8x0 driver at work and snd-via82xx at home with Alsa 1.02 and the 2.6 kernel.

Hope this helps,

Bob
 
Old 04-01-2004, 09:21 AM   #9
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Downgrading from 10.0 to 9.1 fixes sound

I just stripped 10.0 off and installed 9.1 (bamboo), and all I had to do was tell KDE to start ALSA via Config -> KDE -> Sound -> Sound System. I got the startup sound on KDE startup, and here I am with eth0 working.

Ah, well. At least I can say I installed 10.0, ABOUT 30 TIMES!

I'm off to play with my new 9.1...
 
Old 04-01-2004, 11:30 PM   #10
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I have to refind my eth0 card every time I reboot, just as edcutis reported. This is really "#"4#%& me off. Anyone got a solution? (I mean apart from a complete reinstall)

I wait in hope.
 
Old 04-02-2004, 10:14 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by hooya27
I read somewhere (maybe on www.linuxquestions.org?) about the default kernel for Mandrake 10.0's installer having buggy/failed support for the tulip module which drives DEC's 21041 and the like.
I have been running into the same problems too and guess what, I am also running the tulip module. eth0 ALWAYS fails on boot but still allows me access to the internet via the cable modem... well I didnt think much of it since it still worked... well... until last night when it died. So I switched the cable modem to eth1 and bam it worked without a hitch on my other card.

So when you say that you have to refind your card, what commands are you doing to get this done cuase I didnt know what do to last night.

BTW I have completely reinstalled and still have the same problem.

-The GNUbie
 
Old 04-07-2004, 12:37 PM   #12
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I'm still having this problem. I cant tell ryedunn which comands I'm using, as a novice I'm using the mandrake control centre. I have to recreate may cable modem connection each time, kinda frustrating. Just thought to bump this and see if anyone can help. Otherwise my wife cant read her email in the morning without me restarting the network.

A prayer to the lunix gods out there...
O tell me which scrpit doth start DHCP
O tell my computer to strike upon eth0
 
Old 04-07-2004, 02:44 PM   #13
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Just an FYI, you might want to try to ask this again in the networking forum.
 
Old 04-12-2004, 03:21 AM   #14
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I had the same issue and turned off network hotplugging. This fixed it for me but I can't say why.

bl
 
Old 04-13-2004, 02:20 AM   #15
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Ok guys, I have the solutions for you for both the eth0 and the sound blaster driver problem. I have dealt extensively with both.

I upgraded to mdk 10 beta 1, then RC 1 and run community final.

The eth0 can be fixed by first going to /etc/modules.conf and add the line:
alias eth0 yourethmodulename
see explanation below for yourethmodulename

if that doesn't work, also try adding a
/sbin/modprobe yourethmodulename
where yourethmodulename might be 8139too (for realtek based card like my very common D-Link card) to your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file (su to root and vi to edit...you gotta learn vi!).
You'll see that this results in a slightly slower boot when it probes your eth card, but should fix the prob.

As for sound, I have a first-gen Audigy. I had to go to "configure my computer" then click "hardware", "hardware" (again) and hilight your soundcard to the left, then click on "run config tool" on the lower right. hit "let me pick any driver" and choose "emu10k1". Not snd-emu10k1 or audigy - just plain emu10k1.

Reboot for good measure after each of these and check Kmix (in KDE - I don't do GNOME) for volume levels turned up. Linux tends to be quieter than windoze was before I TOTALLY DUMPED THAT LAME A$$ OS!

Hope this helps some of you. I'm no expert tho.
 
  


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