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Old 03-19-2005, 05:44 PM   #31
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Anyone have the answer? i'd be very greatful if anyone could help
 
Old 03-20-2005, 01:28 AM   #32
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Originally posted by Keep3r
I always use the repositories
http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/mas-0.6.3-...:0:1:0:1661230 - it's repositories too

Those are not the "repositories".

Those are "unofficial" releases that are not part of the repositores...

Rather those are unstable "cooker" releases, which are a great way to trash your system...
 
Old 03-20-2005, 03:01 AM   #33
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Originally posted by opjose
Those are not the "repositories".

Those are "unofficial" releases that are not part of the repositores...

Rather those are unstable "cooker" releases, which are a great way to trash your system...
Well, Thac's rpms - I think it's not repositories too, but you use them.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 07:14 AM   #34
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Mmhh, somehow it doesn´t seem to work for me.

I added thacs site and when I try to install kdebase (or even with auto-select on), urpmi starts to get 100% CPU but seemingly does nothing - no harddisk-access, no download from the net, just sitting there and keeping the CPU busy. After 2 hours I stopped it with CTRL-C without problems, so the system didn´t hang.

Does anybody know what urpmi does that makes it take so long?

Case
 
Old 03-20-2005, 01:09 PM   #35
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Mmhh, somehow it doesn´t seem to work for me.

I added thacs site and when I try to install kdebase (or even with auto-select on), urpmi starts to get 100% CPU but seemingly does nothing - no harddisk-access, no download from the net, just sitting there and keeping the CPU busy. After 2 hours I stopped it with CTRL-C without problems, so the system didn´t hang.

Does anybody know what urpmi does that makes it take so long?

Case
I don't know if this will make a difference, but try the Mandrake Control Center --> software --> install and then search for kdebase. Choose Thac's kdebase-3.4 one. See if that does any better.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 03:34 PM   #36
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I don't know if this will make a difference, but try the Mandrake Control Center --> software --> install and then search for kdebase. Choose Thac's kdebase-3.4 one. See if that does any better.
No, it doesn´t. In fact, it even won´t install. I have a fresh Mandrake 10.1 Official Download-Edition installed and added contrib and thacs together with some additional Repositories to urpmi and it just says some dependencies fail. So the only way to install anything is to force installation, otherwise it won´t find fontconfig, zlib and some other libraries although they are installed!!!

I really can´t way for 10.2 to come out cause 10.1 really sucks. I never had problems like this with 10.0 or 9.1.

Case
 
Old 03-20-2005, 04:59 PM   #37
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Originally posted by CaseMillennium
No, it doesn´t. In fact, it even won´t install. I have a fresh Mandrake 10.1 Official Download-Edition installed and added contrib and thacs together with some additional Repositories to urpmi and it just says some dependencies fail. So the only way to install anything is to force installation, otherwise it won´t find fontconfig, zlib and some other libraries although they are installed!!!

I really can´t way for 10.2 to come out cause 10.1 really sucks. I never had problems like this with 10.0 or 9.1.

Case
Dependencies failing? That's not good. try updating your media sources for the 'main'. I had the same problem where my depencencies failed but I had to change my mirror sources and it installed the failed dependencies.

And if it all this fails, then just stick with the default KDE 3.2.3 in Mandrake 10.1. I have upgraded to KDE 3.4 and it's nice, but it's I don't see any big differences. And if you can't do that, then go back to 10.0 or 9.1 and try installing KDE 3.4 on them until Mandrake 10.2 comes out.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 08:30 PM   #38
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Unhappy I think I hosed my installation......

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Originally posted by opjose
Those are not the "repositories".

Those are "unofficial" releases that are not part of the repositores...

Rather those are unstable "cooker" releases, which are a great way to trash your system...
After a couple of days of trouble free work with kde 3.4 I downloaded some packages from thacs and now some things are broken....nothing major but still it causes me pain...

Here are the problems that I have:

The login window now has all the users (including the system users displayed)
When I try to login, kde just loops back and after a couple of tries it boots me to the prompt
At the prompt I can log in with no problem and start my session (startx)
I have lost menu entries like menudrake...kcontrol....etc.

Opjose can you help buddy?
 
Old 03-20-2005, 09:49 PM   #39
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I have the exact same problem. Everything installed fine but I can't log in. It keeps looping me back to the log in screen...help! I am typing this in Windows *shudder*
 
Old 03-20-2005, 09:58 PM   #40
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Originally posted by CaseMillennium
No, it doesn�t. In fact, it even won�t install. I have a fresh Mandrake 10.1 Official Download-Edition installed and added contrib and thacs together with some additional Repositories to urpmi and it just says some dependencies fail. So the only way to install anything is to force installation, otherwise it won�t find fontconfig, zlib and some other libraries although they are installed!!!

I really can�t way for 10.2 to come out cause 10.1 really sucks. I never had problems like this with 10.0 or 9.1.

Case

I've a similar issue, and i have the download edition of 10.1 as well. no matter what I do there is always some sort of dependency error. I even trued using Konstruct and i get an error with that too.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 11:40 PM   #41
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I managed to swith my display manager from MDKKDM to XDM. After that I was able to lo in direclty into kde.....somehow I think the latest update from thac's messed something up. I think the issue lies in these packages that I installed today:

http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd...hac.noarch.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./gn....1gpw.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/./kd....thac.i586.rpm

OPjose, any comments on this? have you experience this issues?
 
Old 03-21-2005, 12:40 AM   #42
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Here's what happened to me:

I went to Thac's site and added his repository to urpmi. Then I went to http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and added contrib, plf, main, jpackage, and updates media. Then I opened a terminal as root and typed: urpmi --auto-select

310 packages downloaded almost 1 gig of updates. I opened my start menu and immediately saw that my Most Used Applications and All Applications lists were gone. None of my desktop icons would work. I tried to edit the start menu but that option didn't work either. I clicked it but nothing would come up.

At this point I figured I just needed to reboot. My system loaded fine until I got to ALSA 1.06. It froze there. I rebooted again and went into interactive mode and didn't load the sound packages. That brought up a login but I couldn't log in. I tried to login as myself and got bumped back to the main login page. I tried to login as root and the same thing happened. I tried to login using Gnome as my desktop but the same thing happened. I tried to login using Failsafe and again I got kicked back to the login.

Eventually, I got tired of this and reinstalled Mandrake 10.1. That fixed the problem.

Just because I'm stupid, I figured maybe there was something wrong with my old installation and having a fresh install would do the trick. Again, I used urpmi --auto-select, again I downloaded more than 300 packages, and again my system got fried and wouldn't boot.

Obviously, I'm pretty new to Linux, can someone tell me what urpmi command I should have used?

Thanks.
 
Old 03-21-2005, 03:05 AM   #43
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I did NOT use the --auto-select feature, if that makes any difference. So far my KDE 3.4 is working okay.
 
Old 03-21-2005, 03:06 AM   #44
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Originally posted by xavierh
I managed to swith my display manager from MDKKDM to XDM. After that I was able to lo in direclty into kde.....somehow I think the latest update from thac's messed something up. I think the issue lies in these packages that I installed today:


OPjose, any comments on this? have you experience this issues?
I never use MDKKDM as it is too crippled and not supported by KDE's own configurator.

I -ALWAYS- switch to KDM immediately after installing Mandrake...

KDM is supported by the KDE control center. In turn the KDE control center permits you to disable errant logins, etc...


As I write this I haven't updated to the packages which came out this week, as I usually let a few days go by to make sure that all of the dependant packages appear.

Thac compiles the packages as he is able and you may not have gotten the full tree for the latest updates...

I may try them this week though.


To the posters complaining about having to --force

--force is NEVER a good idea unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing.

Rather if you get an error, it will most often be, because you have a currenlty installed package that the upgrade needs to remove, but it is prevented from doing so because of too many interdependancies.

This is URPMI's mechanism for keeping you from screwing up your system.

If you are having problems with this -STOP NOW-!!!!!

Thac's site is still a "beta" of what's coming. I posted info about it because there were so many people killing their systems trying to get 3.4 and other programs up and running through brute force means.

If you cannot work around the dependancy issues DO NOT CONTINUE... you'll end up with a broken or inoperable system.

Such is the risk when playing around with "cooker" level software.


If you know what you are doing, you can selectively uninstall keystone packages knowing that they will be updated in the process... or you can go right to the ones which prevent a full install and resolve their issues.

I had to do this with 2-5 packages...

YOU DO NOT, NOR SHOULD NEVER --FORCE everything!


Last edited by opjose; 03-21-2005 at 03:08 AM.
 
Old 03-21-2005, 07:16 AM   #45
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Another question opjose

Do you have any idea how to get those apps back in the menu (drakconf, etc.=? if I edit hte menu I can see...but they do not get displayed...
 
  


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