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matuk_444 02-20-2007 11:36 AM

Okay, so I can add the new repositories but the stuff you get with then is almost non-existant! For example, I wanted Octave, so after I added all these new repositories I went to add software and looked for octave and found nothing!! I ended up downlolading the source code and compiling from source!!

I had to do this with Kile as well, there is nothing on these repositiries of use. I expected something like packman on SUSE.

Mat

mjdava 02-20-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matuk_444
In SUSE there were many repositories which had many many different and wonderful programs which you can pick and choose from. The easy-urmpi doesn't give a fraction of the programs which I want, for example Octave (I compiled this from source), Opera, seamonkey, aMule, Azureus, Kile and firefox 2.0. None of these were on easy-urmpi. To get more repositories onto SUSE, you use a GUI, not a commamd line

Once installed in SUSE, there will be a item in the menu which is created and it is easy to see, my experience with Mandriva is that you install a rpm and then it dissapears into the aether, not to be seen again... This is the other of my grips with mandriva.

I think I get your point Mat. I'm a casual (as in not tech smart) user of MDK. I started w/ 9.0 moved to 9.2 and now use 10.1. I have not really tried any other distros except for the occasional paniced use of KNOPPIX. But lately I've been thinking that I probably would have been better off changing horses at my last "upgrade." I feel a certain loyalty to MDK, and I enjoy the puzzles I have to solve, and I totally appreciate all the help this forum has given me, over and over again, amen. Damn, you folks are good! But I think next time (probably in a couple of years, or if I "upgrade" to something bigger than my 633mhz), anyway, I think next time I'll look around a bit and see if there's something out there that suits me better.

As per the above quote, one way I've figured out how to locate stuff I've just installed and then can't find, is to go to the Remove Software section of Rpmdrake, and in MDK 10.1, I click on the Maximum Information, find the program I just installed and highlight it, in the information window it will tell you where the hell it is.

I also looked for Firefox and couldn't find it in the easy URPM repositories, so I downloaded it from the Firefox website. If I remember right I had to download a tar.gz file that I unpacked and exported into a directory in my download directory on my desktop. The instructions on the Firefox website weren't the most explicit in the world so I ended up installing it right there, I guess. Afterward no icon shortcut appeared in the start menu or on the desktop. I was able to start it from a terminal, then found the icon "Firefox" in the Firefox folder draged and linked that to my desktop, and that's how I click to get into Firefox these days.

Which I guess is not so much "unstable" as humbling.

Padma 02-21-2007 11:38 AM

Matuk: I take it you didn't add the contrib repositories from easy-urpmi. *That* is where things like octave and kile are to be found.

DiBosco 03-09-2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdava
I think I get your point Mat. I'm a casual (as in not tech smart) user of MDK. I started w/ 9.0 moved to 9.2 and now use 10.1. I have not really tried any other distros except for the occasional paniced use of KNOPPIX. But lately I've been thinking that I probably would have been better off changing horses at my last "upgrade."

I used version 10.0 for quite some time (having started with 7 and used 8 and 9). I tried 10.1 but hated it - IIRC I found it *much* slower than 10.0 and it wouldn't run some of the apps I needed for embedded software development.

I recently took the plunge and upgraded to Mandrake 2007 and am very impressed indeed. There is so much software that comes with it and that you can get from other places that I now only need Windows for Sony's awful Sonic Stage for when I want to put music on my HDD Walkman. I saw no decrease in speed from 10.0, although I should point out I'm using a 3GHz or so P4 and not a 633MHz device.

I have heard other people moan about Mandriva 2007, but I can only praise it.

matuk_444 03-09-2007 12:00 PM

I added every repository I could find. I ended up scrubbing my system of mandriva and I am now using Sabayon.

Mat

lotstolearn 05-01-2007 03:29 PM

SO glad I found this forum, and this thread in particular.
And THANK YOU for explaining the easy urpmi use!
As a Linux user of about 4 days, and a MS teeth gnasher from way back, I fell in love with Mandriva Spring right away, but admit I was very close to going back to Windows, at least for awhile because I have printer issues I couldn't figure out due to the whole rpm/tar issue. It's total greek to me right now, and up to this thread had already put in an hour of search time trying to find the most basic info.
I have found that no matter how helpful some posters try to be, they forget some newbies are TOTALLY green, and have barely gotten past the fresh install from a LIVE DVD.
Thanks again, and try to keep us greenies in mind!

marietechie 05-29-2007 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by I_wish
i need to install yahoo messenger. BUT, i don't know how.

Try Gaim or Kopete. They do the same thing, more or less. Also, they work with Yahoo, AIM, ICQ... You can log into more than one account at a time even.

And, no ads. :-)

marietechie 05-29-2007 10:02 AM

Greenies...lol...so true!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lotstolearn
some newbies are TOTALLY green, and have barely gotten past the fresh install from a LIVE DVD.
Thanks again, and try to keep us greenies in mind!

This is very true! I know Windows inside and out. Linux is about 90% mystery to me. I may understand the concepts, but I still need someone to walk me through the practical applications. In some ways, it's like teaching a child to walk.

willgwitt 07-06-2007 10:44 AM

I recently installed Mandriva after having used Suse 10.0 for about a year. I found this article most helpful in making the switch from Yast. However, I've run into a snag with dependencies. If I select a new program to add, it quickly gives me the list of dependencies--great!

However, should I decide that I don't want to install the program at this point (because, for example, I don't have time to download 100 mb of software right now), unchecking the original program only removes the original program. It doesn't remove the dependencies, which leaves me with 90 mb of software selected (minus the 10 mb for the original program).

How do I unselect all the dependencies--apart from going through every item in RPMDrake and unchecking one at a time?

uroplatus 07-06-2007 02:15 PM

Greetings,

This is my first post.

Somebody could help me? I want to install a file ".run" it's the last version of NVIDIA drivers for Linux. I do not have troubles with ".rpm or tar.gz"...But ".run" it's quite different for me.

I run Mandriva 2007 i586.
My pc is: Intel Pentium 3.2Gb (32 bits), 2 Gb RAM memmory, Asus motherboard, NVIDIA 6600 PCI-e 256MB.

Kind regards.

matuk_444 07-06-2007 02:55 PM

You right click on the file and in the permissions there is a box marked "is executable", make sure this has a cross in it. Depending on your distro you can click it to install or on the command line do sh ***.run and that should now work.

Mat

uroplatus 07-07-2007 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matuk_444
You right click on the file and in the permissions there is a box marked "is executable", make sure this has a cross in it. Depending on your distro you can click it to install or on the command line do sh ***.run and that should now work.

Mat

Hi Matuk!

Thanks for the advice, but appear this:

"ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
installing. For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
download page at www.nvidia.com."


I don't know how to stop running X server. How can I do that? So sry i'm so noob :eek:

Kindest regards,
Uroplatus

uroplatus 07-07-2007 07:17 AM

So sorry,

My distro is Mandriva 2007 sping free

Regards,
Uro

widda 08-21-2009 10:28 PM

The title of this thread bears no relation to contents.
Until now, ha.
Newbiveteran of 3 months here.
Mandriva 2009.1,KDE4, single OS
I have tarballs lying around, and still don't know what to do with them. Some are duplicated as normal looking folders in Documents. I may have done this. It seems it's not the best place for program files.

Anyway, how can I get them happening?
:):confused::rolleyes::scratch::cool:

I will be able to retain helpful info better than previously, as I now have made a floating kwrite note which sits in minimized form in bottom bar, thus simulating the dearly departed [window$] Quicknote, and compensating for my clunky incompetence in staggering about in Dolphin.

jkerr82508 08-22-2009 10:18 AM

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Bas...ng_from_source

Jim

widda 08-23-2009 12:30 AM

Thanks Jim.
Apologies to whomsoever for my premature description of this thread as irrelevant, I hadn't seen the other pages, o dear.

widda 09-07-2009 11:37 PM

hi Jim. Well, no progress with tarballs. the link was to "Installing software from source code".
Aren't tarballs something else.
Not having much success with the old bitumenballs, although I haven't had unlimited time for research.
If anyone knows anywhere else where there even might be a complete description of what to do with them once you've got 'em, please, drop me a link?
I'm doing well on several other fronts, and looking forward to giving help, as well as receiving.
Certainly at the stage now of great admiration for Linux's QUALITY.
My computer is beginning to feel like a computer, and not just a Mcrsft Outlet.

widda 09-07-2009 11:48 PM



This on page 12 here looks good, but I'm not sure if I've made a live link or not.

By the way, it just jumped up!when I pressed Submit on my new post bewailing inability to find any links to thorough instructions for tarballs! - which I therefore no longer need to post.

Is that a highly sensitive intelligent forum, or just regular spooky stuff?:D

widda 09-07-2009 11:56 PM

Well, I clearly don't know what I'm doing, but here it is, from Zulfilee, April 2004, hope it's still relevant, it's my next target anyway.

And I hope my blundering about in this thread is providing some amusement for the more experienced:cool:


"For RPM

rpm -ivh packagename -> TO install package

rpm -qip packagename ->To view package information before install

rpm -e packagename ->To uninstall package

rpm -q package ->To view if package is already inastalled




For tar.gz and tgz Both are same files with different extensions.

less filename ->TO view contents

tar -zxvf filename ->To untar the files

And if it has a READ me follow it for install[Normally ./configure , make and make
install is used .But see READme first before installing]"

jkerr82508 09-08-2009 12:02 AM

Some tarballs include source code. Others may include binaries. You need to extract the contents of the tarball (usually to a folder) and examine the contents. There is usually a README or other text file that will explain how to proceed. When you download a tarball the site from which you download will usually make clear whether or not it is source code. It is rarely necessary to use tarballs of any kind to install software on Mandriva, since there are thousands of software packages available in the Mandriva repo's.

Jim

widda 09-08-2009 06:32 AM

ok, will check my tars and see if i have equiv. or identical in repositories, and no more tars maybe. cool!

widda 09-08-2009 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkerr82508 (Post 3673818)
... You need to extract the contents of the tarball (usually to a folder) and examine the contents. There is usually a README or other text file that will explain how to proceed....

Jim

I did find an extracted version of one of them, and found readme, and it said, for linux, so simple, just run ./configure --with-mp4v2 , su root, sudo make install
Results - no such file, command not found.
Not that I'm expecting to be spoonfed, just lettin you know where I am with what no doubt are extremely plain and simple instructions.
I'm off to repositories.

widda 09-15-2009 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by jkerr82508
"... You need to extract the contents of the tarball (usually to a folder) and examine the contents. There is usually a README or other text file that will explain how to proceed...."

OK: From the top.
I have a tar file in Home. or home.
I have extracted it in same directory and it is there as a normal looking folder.
I have examined its entrails.
(looking for what in windows would be the .exe file which I would maybe link to the desktop, or run program right there by clicking .exe file.)
But so far, no good. No relevant readme either.
I get the feeling that tarfiles are somewhat disapproved of by the Linux users, but I can't get a similar program (kastrolog) from repositories,
and if anyone could help me to get at this bitumenized download, I may never download one again.
I seem to have my own thread going on here - if no-one ever arrives out here in Tarball Territory, I may make this my own little blog on the delights of tarball collecting.

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