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motub 08-15-2005 08:15 AM

Did you check the checkboxes next to the server repository group type before using the dropdown menu to choose a specific server from that repository group?

For example, if you want a mirror from the contrib group, you have to check the contrib checkbox, then select a server. Then, when you click the "Go to Step 3" button, the instructions for adding that contrib server will be displayed.

jtravnick 08-15-2005 08:34 AM

yes checked the boxes and picked a server near me this is what I getat step 3:

3) Type this in a console as root

If you get an error, please check that the mirror is accessible and not over it's connection limit.
Also, you might want to type urpmi.removemedia -a first, in order to reinitialize urpmi's setup.

The area that is shaded is blank I am asumming that that is where it is telling me what to type

motub 08-15-2005 08:42 AM

Which version and architecture, and which mirrors did you pick? I'd try to replicate your problem, but atm it works fine for me, when I pick mirrors for myself.

jtravnick 08-15-2005 09:27 AM

these are what I have filled out infact the site filled the first two out:
Mandriva Linux version: 2005
architecture: i586
Source contrib : USA Wisconsin (ftp:// mirror.cs.wisc.edu)
Source main : USA Wisconsin (ftp:// mirror.cs.wisc.edu)
Source updates : USA Wisconsin (ftp:// mirror.cs.wisc.edu)
Source jpackage : USA Wisconsin (ftp:// mirror.cs.wisc.edu)

Jim

motub 08-16-2005 03:57 AM

When I choose those mirrors, and then click go to step 3, I get the following displayed in the 'type this in a console as root' box:

Code:

urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors.../main_updates/ with media_info/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia main ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors...586/media/main with media_info/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors.../media/contrib with media_info/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia jpackage ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors...media/jpackage with media_info/hdlist.cz

Perhaps you have page caching or a proxy on, so the new page is not loading correctly?

But of course, you can use these settings as I've posted them and worry about it later ;) .

ikarus 08-18-2005 03:54 PM

Oops! - I typed urpmi.removemedia -a and I see that it has gone and deleted my CDs as a source.
Any ideas how I can put them back ?

IKarus

reddazz 08-19-2005 04:44 AM

You can use rpmdrake (software module in the mandrake control center), there is an option there to add urpmi sources. If you have a fast net connection, then don't bother with the CD's.

ikarus 08-19-2005 11:23 PM

I'm lucky if I get any internet connection at all! Better I put the CDs back.

Thanks for reply.

IKarus

sgm-co 09-08-2005 07:37 PM

Rdesktop Installed
 
Ok so I installed Rdesktop via the instructions listed. Looks like it installed fine, now how the heck do I go about running it?

waeladelfci 09-12-2005 04:13 PM

hi i have a problem in mandrakelinux 10.1 every time i install it give me always init : kernel panic .
i want to know what i can do to repair it and maintain the system .
But also when i make boot loader reinstall it give me error and when i make upgrade it give me error that the partition not mounted and in this case it force me to reinstall all the system again.
anybody can help me please reply to me.
i am sorry for my bad English this is because i am arabian from Egypt.

From,
waeladelfci

griever33127 09-30-2005 11:38 AM

when i try to install a source it tell s me

root@mshome:~# ./configure
-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
root@mshome:~#

cant get past this

what do i do im running slackware 10.2 by the way, help would be greatly apreciated

minrich 09-30-2005 11:50 AM

That was a bit crytic. Is part of the last post missing or in invisible ink? Seeing as I have a custom background for LQ is it possible that I am missing something here?

Cheers

motub 09-30-2005 12:55 PM

Not that I see, Minrich.

To answer the question as far as I can tell what it is-- despite the fact that griever33127's post is actually a bit OT, since this is a Mandrake/Mandriva-specific section of the forums:

All source tarballs do not have a ./configure step. Most of them do, but some do not.

The second possibility, more likely now that I look more closely at the output, is that you are not in the source directory. You're just in roots $HOME folder; what precisely is ./configure supposed to configure?

Try cd-ing to the directory where you have extracted the source tarball and then run ./configure again. It's failing because that

./

in front of

./configure

means "run configure in the current directory" (./ means "the current directory"), and the extracted source's configure.* file is not in the current directory, as you can see from your prompt:

root@mshome:~# ./configure

which translates to:

user root at your hostname (mshome): current working directory is $HOME (designated by "~", and in this case refers to the /root directory, which is roots $HOME folder) # command to be run is configure in the current directory (which is $HOME, where no configure file exists to be run).

Hope this helps.

griever33127 09-30-2005 01:09 PM

because all the sources i download go directly to the home folder
because its untars in the home folder,

this is what i get

root@mshome:~# dir
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3-alpha.tar.gz Python-2.4.2.tgz loadlin16c.zip
BitTornado-0.3.7.tar.gz cripts
Desktop/ loadlin16c.txt
root@mshome:~# tar xvzf ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3-alpha.tar.gz
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/__init__.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/bencode.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/bitfield.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/btformats.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Choker.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/ConfigReader.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/ConnChoice.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Connecter.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/CurrentRateMeasure.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/download.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Downloader.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/DownloaderFeedback.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Encrypter.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/fakeopen.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/HTTPDownloader.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/HTTPHandler.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/parseargs.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/PiecePicker.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/RateMeasure.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/RawServer.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Rerequester.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/selectpoll.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Statistics.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Storage.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/StorageWrapper.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/subnetparse.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/testtest.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/Uploader.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/BitTorrent/zurllib.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/torrent/
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abc.conf
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abc.ini
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abc.nsi
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abc.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abc_tweak.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abcdetailframe.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abcengine.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/abcoptiondlg.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/aboutmedlg.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/announce.lst
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/btcompletedir.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/btcompletedirgui.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/btmakemetafile.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/btmaketorrentgui.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/clean.bat
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/filemanager.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/getscrapedata.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/globaluploaddlg.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/guimanager.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/icon_abc.ico
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/interconn.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/license.txt
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/makedist.bat
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/maketest.bat
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/readme.txt
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/scheduler.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/setupabc.py
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/torrent.lst
root@mshome:~# dir
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3/ Desktop/ loadlin16c.txt
ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3-alpha.tar.gz Python-2.4.2.tgz loadlin16c.zip
BitTornado-0.3.7.tar.gz cripts
root@mshome:~# cd ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3
root@mshome:~/ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3# ./configure
-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
root@mshome:~/ABC-Linux-V.2.4.3#

what am i supposed to do



motub 09-30-2005 01:19 PM

Just about every tarball I've ever seen is a folder (usually named the same as the program) tarred up, not loose files. If your tar.gz file does contain loose files, the best thing to do would be to open it with a GUI extraction utility (since I'm no good with tar from the command-line) such as file-roller (if GNOME) or Karchiver (if KDE) or even mc (Midnight Commander) in a term will allow you to look at the contents of the tarball before you extract it, and then extract it to a folder of your own making (mkdir whatever, then extract the tarball to that folder. You could even move the tarball to that folder and then extract it).

Then cd to the folder (which now contains the extracted source) and run ./configure from inside the folder.

yoron 11-08-2005 09:48 AM

Hi, i'm using the non_commercial M/M 2006 (3 CD:s).
On a PaceBlade 600 Mhz with usb mouse and IR keboard.
Both the mouse and keyboard is hardware wired as ps2 devices.
And the Os seems to identify them right.

As i'm from Sweden i want my specific keyboard_settings ;).
After iv'e installed it a couple of times i get it to work, but only in the GUI.
And when i go out of the GUI to log in as 'root' my keyboard disappears.
My ' o ' f ex, so i can't start/login as ' root' , that's kind of frustrating,
i guess i could download the ASCII table and use <alt 124> f ex in linux as in old dos?

Still, how/what should i do to correct this problem.

I'm surprised that there isn't any support for wireless cards.
Prism54 Ndiwrapper, none seems to be bundled in this release ?
And no install_choice for booting via floppy
Otherwise i've truly enjoyed it, i like fluxbox and 'Drake' etc, and if it
only could install itself with the correct keysettings /maps ...

Anybody:confused:

motub 11-08-2005 10:18 AM

Sorry I don't know an answer to your question (as i have a US keyboard and so know nothing about setting keymaps), but you should actually post your question in a separate thread, here, in the same Mandriva forums.

Because your post is completely off-topic for the thread, it's much more likely that anyone who does know the answer will not ever see your question. A new thread with an appropriate title (How to set Swedish keyboard map? might be a good choice) will increase your chance of getting an answer.

Good luck.

yoron 11-08-2005 01:46 PM

Ok :o , when i started to write i thought that i wouldn't be able to log in as 'su' and therefore not get my urmi to work. But after reading your excellent guide i succeeded from the GUI via a command window and are considerably more happy than before. So that's why it went wrong ;). It's only one small thing i'm wondering over. Is prism for installed in my kernel (2.6.12). It seems to be installed in 2.6.12.12 as i've searched on prism54 in Mandrivas control center (drake)? If it is i must have some locall 'broken link' to it as i can't install my card.

btw: that Little guide should pop up the first time one starts ones new Distro...

;) regards Yoron

sleepykit 11-22-2005 08:40 PM

In Mandriva 10.1 is there a way to specify where you'd like something to be installed assuming it's an .rpm file?

reddazz 11-22-2005 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sleepykit
In Mandriva 10.1 is there a way to specify where you'd like something to be installed assuming it's an .rpm file?
The location where an rpm installs its files is hard coded in the rpm itself and usually cannot be changed. With some rpms however, you can change the installation prefix but these kind of rpms are rare. Run "man rpm" to find out how to do this.

smsmatat 11-24-2005 03:55 PM

I want ask a question:
Why when installing a package one faced with dependency problems?
why the package to be installed doen't contain all it needs and install the missing packages only?

jjmac 11-26-2005 03:28 AM

Because that would be a wast of bandwidth. And it would tend to duplicate various facilities contained in the down load.

Once a particular dependency is available, often it will also be used by other packages. Also, quite a number of the required dependencies will be available anyway -- if the installation involves a complete cd set, or iso image.

It can be difficult for an author to know what just a person will have already installed, so including everything in the one package would eventually lead to complaints on its bloated size. Especially from dialups like myself (grin).

Most dependencies will just consist of the header files and static link libs required for source compilation. While others will relate to libraries that provide special functionality that the program draws on. Particularly if there maintained/developed by a separate project. Such as sound daemons for a media related application, or a compression library for a media/graphics conversion program, but one that may also be used by other programs as well.

As for the header/static link lib type of dependency for source compiles, they will likely have the name "dev" in their package name.

A lot of these packages will likely be found on the installation cd(s) for your distro but arn't always installed as part of the initial install process due to them not necessarily being often used, or immediately necessary to get up and running. So look on the cd(s) first.

And, as has been mentioned before back in this interesting thread -=- check out your distros site repositories first for ... hopefully ... best compatibility.

Admittedly though, dependencies can be a right pain in the butt at times (grin).


jm

PS -=-=-=-

Is it just me, or --- ummm --- why is this submit edit box so incredibly tiny. Weird as :roll:, hope all this wraps ok :)


jm

smsmatat 11-27-2005 01:23 PM

Thanks for these valiable information.

phaserule 12-15-2005 02:02 PM

thank you thank you thank you ... threads like this instill little more tenacity

randell6564 01-12-2006 04:25 PM

Hello everyone!
I was wondering if you, 'Motub' could tell me what it is that i am suppose to "type in" at step 3 of the 'easy urpmi' web sight?

the link seems to be broken or i am doing something wrong.

Cancel That! I was clicking on the wrong tab! alls-well!

Have A Great Day!

bobbelfield 01-24-2006 05:04 PM

gp42 -buy a recent linux magazine ..were up to Mandriva 2006 now
For those using Mandriva the package software update facility in the packages menu seems to avoid all this and give you hasslefree updates

Edit --learning a little more the UrpmI / plf updates are for the stuff the official site cant give you so you need to go there specially if you want the videos to play

randell6564 01-24-2006 09:46 PM

Thanks!! but all is taken care of !

balansero 02-15-2006 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulfilee
For RPM

rpm -ivh packagename -> TO install package

rpm -qip packagename ->To view package information before install

rpm -e packagename ->To uninstall package

rpm -q package ->To view if package is already inastalled




For tar.gz and tgz Both are same files with different extensions.

less filename ->TO view contents

tar -zxvf filename ->To untar the files

And if it has a READ me follow it for install[Normally ./configure , make and make
install is used .But see READme first before installing]


Cheers
Z


Pleace do you know a good website where can I download software(tgz;rpm) for mandrake 10.1 Thank you.

Padma 02-15-2006 11:26 AM

The absolute best place/method, is http://easyurpmi/zarb.org. Follow the instructions there, and you can get thousands of software packages tailored explicitely for Mandrake 10.1, all through the rpmdrake package manager (menu: Star --> System --> Configure --> Configure Your Computer).

dcliett 05-25-2006 10:33 AM

Hey I tried to get the mirrors added and this is the output.
[root@localhost dcliett]# urpmi.addmedia main ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrakel...Mandrake/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz
using different removable device [/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd] for "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)"
using different removable device [/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd] for "Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2)"
using different removable device [/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd] for "Installation CD 3 (x86) (cdrom3)"
using different removable device [/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd] for "Installation CD 4 (x86) (cdrom4)"
added medium main
urpmi database locked
Did I succeed or not please?

Pyrate_02 05-27-2006 08:02 PM

URPMI database
 
I am trying to add a local directory (OpenOffice 2.0) to my media manager, and I keep getting:"urpmi database locked". I checked the permissions on every thing with urpmi in its name. No help. How do I unlock it so I can add some local files?

Emmanuel_uk 06-09-2006 01:46 AM

alternative to easyurpmi (but not a mirror)
 
I saw and heard once of a website equivalent to easyurpmi
It is not a mirror; it is organised very differently, possibly
hosted in germany, not sure (still in English); I think it was claimed
it had added features or easier use than easyurpmi

Can anybody post a link to it?

I have googled with no success (that is the nag sometimes when you know it is
there but one cannot find it). For the life of it I cannot remember the name.

I read the whole sticky, it is not listed
(I do not think I am deluded)

I am asking for completeness of reference in the thread,
not necessarily for personal usage

FOund IT !
http://www.mandrivauser.de/smarturpmi/

foxmuldar 06-13-2006 08:03 PM

I tried to install an RPM and got this...what happen?

matrix:/home/fm# rpm -ivh LimeWireLinuxPro4.10.0.rpm
bash: rpm: command not found

Thanks in advance for the help...
foxmuldar,

randell6564 06-13-2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxmuldar
I tried to install an RPM and got this...what happen?

matrix:/home/fm# rpm -ivh LimeWireLinuxPro4.10.0.rpm
bash: rpm: command not found

Thanks in advance for the help...
foxmuldar,

Not sure about what you are running onyour box. I wiped my mandriva a long time ago!

But try this :http://www.frostwire.com It is the EXACT same thing as 'LimeWire' only it installs alot easier!

Good Luck!

iqbala 06-22-2006 08:36 AM

I thank you everybody for the valuable informations.

Motub, I learnt, thanks to you, how to use rpmdrake, and It has ben a great improvement, but still I would like to understand some more about the system itself. You wrote, in one of the very first posts:

"Mandrake puts its libs or other dependent files in a custom location not referenced by the ./configure or Makefile of the developer of the program, so they are not found, and naturally this user does not have a clue how to fix such a problem. When was the last time you saw a README or INSTALL file in a source tarball that contained specific editing instructions for Mandrake, as opposed to, say Debian?"

Where can I find information about which are exactly the difference between Mandrake and "standard" Linux as for libs locations and so on? How do I learn to edit ./configure or make file in order to adapt it to Mandrake?

RPM repositories does not always contain everything... For example, I really don't find Firefox 1.5 for Mandrake 10.1, so I will have to resort to source...

pburn 06-25-2006 06:28 PM

After Installing the packages....
 
Thank you Motub. I found your post very very helpful...

I just need some further infomation as to how to run the program.
I am running mandrake 10.1 official distro and I installed the urpmi thingiz as mentioned by you. From the list of pacakges available in the software Management (install) I installed the Real Player. However after installing the player, I tried opening an online real player jukebox, but it wont work. I was given a choice of whether to save the file or open it with kaffeine.
I went back to control center to see if the packages were installed and click on Remove and real player is listed there...
I was wondering if there is something further that has to be done after one installs the real player from the package...and also where can I find an installed program viz. Real player...
Your help is greatly appreciated....

anveshjadav 07-15-2006 11:20 AM

hi frnds,
i wanna install extra app. (.tar.gz) i want to know the names of all packages needed to be install from mandriva cds like gcc,gcc-c++
without these files i'll not be able 2 install any extra applications. . . . .plz help

jonnybot 07-18-2006 07:02 PM

Thank you, motub. I don't think I can thank you enough. I haven't actually implemented your solutions yet, but the mere hope they have inspired in me is enough to persuade me to continue my quest with the open source os.

Merlin Whitewolf 08-13-2006 03:25 PM

I hope this thread isn't so old that no one checks it anymore. :D

I downloaded and installed the free version of Mandriva. The installation took 2 attempts before it was bootable. (shrug) I got it done, though.

There are a couple of problems. There is no 'Software Management' in LocaleDrake (control center). I tried a search for RPMDrake, but could not find it.
I used the easy urpmi tutorial in this thread to add the rpm sources, but there seems to be no way to install or update software. How can one get any software or updates installed, if RPMDrake is not installed?
Also, there is no text editor. This seems most strange to me.
Are these things excluded from the free version of Mandriva as a way to "encourage" users to buy Mandriva?

I'm more used to Fedora Core and PCLinuxOS; they are easily updated and adding software is a breeze.
A system that requires so much configuration (over 6 hours so far today) with so few results is not what I'd call new user friendly. Mandriva says they are, but is that only for those with money?

-Merlin

imagineaxion 08-14-2006 11:14 AM

Hi I have not used a current version of Mandriva as I went to Debian a little while ago, however it would seem very strange and unlikely for them to have left out RPMDrake as it is a key part of Mandriva, I would also bet anything that they wouldn't leave a txt editor out.

I think there is either a problem with your installation CD's or some hardware incompatibility that caused it not to install properly.

Perhaps try download the CDís again.

What version of Mandriva are you trying to install, and what computer do you have?

Merlin Whitewolf 08-14-2006 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagineaxion
Hi I have not used a current version of Mandriva as I went to Debian a little while ago, however it would seem very strange and unlikely for them to have left out RPMDrake as it is a key part of Mandriva, I would also bet anything that they wouldn't leave a txt editor out.

I think there is either a problem with your installation CD's or some hardware incompatibility that caused it not to install properly.

Perhaps try download the CDís again.

What version of Mandriva are you trying to install, and what computer do you have?

I'm using MandrivaOne on an HP Pavilion a1016x, with an Intel Pentium 4, 512 MB Ram and a 160 GB hard drive.

I'll try another download and burn. It seemed quite strange to me that they would do this, also. This isn't to be my main distro (I use PCLinuxOS and Fedora Core), but I would like for it to work properly.

Thank you for your responce. I hope your suggestion does the trick.

-Merlin

joeslade 10-14-2006 07:40 PM

Problems using URPMI
 
Hi, I've tried to use the easy urpmi site and downloaded the contrib file from one of the mirrors and received this error message. I'm running a Gateway TL-52 Laptop with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip, 160gb harddrive, 2g of ram and an ATI Radeon card.


linux/devel/2007.0/x86_64/media/contrib/release with media_info/hdlist.cz
added medium contrib
wrote config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation DVD.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation DVD (main32).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf-free.cz]
computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis)
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "contrib"...
ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakel...info/hdlist.cz
found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as media_info/hdlist.cz
...retrieving done

examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.contrib.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.contrib.cz]
unable to parse hdlist file of "contrib"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "contrib"
found 0 headers in cache
removing 0 obsolete headers in cache
wrote config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg]
unable to update medium "contrib"

Emmanuel_uk 11-04-2006 01:18 PM

tar.bz2
 
if you read all this wondering about tar.bz2
then you will be glad to know that for example
tar -xjvf speedtouch-131.tar.bz2 will work
instead of -xzvf

tulsaghost 11-26-2006 07:04 PM

installing software
 
This is a lot of good info..BUT!!!..Linux is supposed to be so much better than Windows, more user friendly, blah, blah, blah...they why cant d/l software just be installed, without going thru command line crap? This os the 3rd attempt thur the years to install and get some familiarity with Linux(mandrake version this time) and, again..if it isnt an RPM package..I have to jump thru hoops to instal a application. Is there NO autolaoders out there?

Thanx for letting me semi-rant

imagineaxion 11-26-2006 11:42 PM

You don't, just about all the software you will ever need you can get from URPMI i think its called sorry if thats wrong - been a long while since i used mandrake/mandriva.

Read thru the thread properly there is stuff in here about it :)

Mandrake does have a GUI interface for this, i think called rpmdrake, and you just need to set up the sources.
You should be able to get what you need from http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

Hope this helps

Merlin Whitewolf 11-27-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tulsaghost
This is a lot of good info..BUT!!!..Linux is supposed to be so much better than Windows, more user friendly, blah, blah, blah...they why cant d/l software just be installed, without going thru command line crap? This os the 3rd attempt thur the years to install and get some familiarity with Linux(mandrake version this time) and, again..if it isnt an RPM package..I have to jump thru hoops to instal a application. Is there NO autolaoders out there?

Thanx for letting me semi-rant

Try using "Checkinstall" and / or "DoAsRoot". They should be in the repositories.

motub 11-28-2006 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tulsaghost
This is a lot of good info..BUT!!!..Linux is supposed to be so much better than Windows, more user friendly, blah, blah, blah...they why cant d/l software just be installed, without going thru command line crap? This os the 3rd attempt thur the years to install and get some familiarity with Linux(mandrake version this time) and, again..if it isnt an RPM package..I have to jump thru hoops to instal a application. Is there NO autolaoders out there?

Thanx for letting me semi-rant

Yes, there are "autoloaders" (or rather, facilities for the automatic installation of software, which is more or less what you mean, even though there's no "setup.exe" type thing) out there, but the software which can automatically be installed on Mandriva is all on the Mandriva repositories. That's the entire point of them (repositories)-- to enable you to use the provided GUI utility to install software.

If you're having to "go through command-line crap", because "the package isn't an RPM", that's most likely because you're seeking out individual applications on the application's homepage, rather than using the Mandrake--- sorry, Mandriva-- repositories, where all the applications available for Mandriva are collected, and can be downloaded and installed using the Mandriva Control Center. Many of these applications are the same ones you couldn't find an RPM package for, but the Mandriva team has taken the source and compiled it as Mandriva-compatible RPMs. That's what the teams that populate the repositories do.... but the original homepage doesn't have the Mandriva-compatible RPM of course. Mandriva has it, and makes it available to Mandriva users who access the software repository. The Mandriva Control Center can be configured to access these repositories via the Easy URPMI site linked above (which is the pretty much the main function of the site, actually).

Which is, in fact, "better" than having to search out individual programs to download and install from various application homepages scattered all over the Internet.... but that's a matter of opinion, I suppose.

The point being, the tools are all available, but obviously they won't work for you if you don't use them :) . Try doing so, then see what you say.

mjdava 01-28-2007 12:16 PM

Well, I just did something stupid.

I went to easy URPMI. I'm using Mandrake 10.1 official version, but when I selected the architecture I selected x86_64 instead of i586. I looked at the DVD I used to install 10.1 and it said "x86 Version" and just thought, "What the heck." Later a friend told me I probably chose the wrong architecture. I tried to edit though URPMI, just doing it over again through the terminal w/ i586 selected. It just said that it was already there. So I tried to _edit_ through Media Manager, but that didn't work, so I _removed_ contrib hoping that would just remove the path, but instead it removed the whole darn thing. I added it again through URPMI (which seemed to work), but now it doesn't show up in Media Manager.

A fine mess.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

matuk_444 02-18-2007 07:57 AM

Having been a very very happy SUSE user for a past couple of years, I thought I would try and go for the lstest offerinf that Mandriva had to offer. I have to say I am a little underwhemled at the usability. In SUSE there were many repositories which had many many different and wonderful programs which you can pick and choose from. The easy-urmpi doesn't give a fraction of the programs which I want, for example Octave (I compiled this from source), Opera, seamonkey, aMule, Azureus, Kile and firefox 2.0. None of these were on easy-urmpi. To get more repositories onto SUSE, you use a GUI, not a commamd line

Once installed in SUSE, there will be a item in the menu which is created and it is easy to see, my experience with Mandriva is that you install a rpm and then it dissapears into the aether, not to be seen again... This is the other of my grips with mandriva.

One these two rather large problems (IMHO), mandriva will be a uasble distro.

So my question is, how does one go about doing these things?

Mat

smiler 02-20-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matuk_444
Once installed in SUSE, there will be a item in the menu which is created and it is easy to see, my experience with Mandriva is that you install a rpm and then it dissapears into the aether, not to be seen again... This is the other of my grips with mandriva.

One these two rather large problems (IMHO), mandriva will be a uasble distro.

So my question is, how does one go about doing these things?

Mat

The control panel at System -> Configuration -> Configure Your machine
brings you the Mandriva control panel.

In the uppermost part administration of programs there is one rpm applet that let's you choose from were to get the rpms.

There you can add various repos.

There is also an applet where you can look at installed packages and uninstall


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