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Old 09-14-2005, 09:33 AM   #1
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Install apt-get to replace urpmi

I'd like to install the .deb packages manager because seemingly, the mandriva distributions do not have a well updated fpt rpm packages. I had some ideas, it will be fun if you can datail some points. Thank you.

1. Find the rpm apt package or the tar. (Seemingly it do not exist)
2. Install apt.
3. apt newly installed will know nothing about the packages of my system but it's not critical, as long as I have the latest deb packages installed automatically so that I do not need to handle dependencies. However perhaps because of apt's unknowness, I must also use urpmi in parallel to uninstall a package before installing a new one with apt if not maybe the old pack installed with urpmi will not be override.

Could you also help me for the url of apt pack , I searched in the FSF but no result.
Old 09-14-2005, 10:29 AM   #2
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Perhaps you should post on the Debian or Ubuntu forum and they can guide you in the right direction for this.

Or, just switch over to Debian or Ubuntu and you'll have apt-get for you right there!
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Mandriva is an RPM-based distribution, you cannot install .debs made for debian. Official and 3rd party Mandriva repositories have the latest versions of tons of software. apt-get is a front-end for downloading software packages from repositories, and can be used to download the same RPMs that urpmi downloads, however that is pointless as urpmi does the job perfectly.
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Re: Install apt-get to replace urpmi

Originally posted by cigarstub
the mandriva distributions do not have a well updated fpt rpm packages.
I have to second that trying to install .deb packages will fail. They are not created thinking of mandriva, they are created thinking on debian and that will probably bring all sords of errors.

Mandrake does have many updated packages, but you have so seek for them.

I'm using firefox 1.0.6, updated my KDE to 3.4.2, I have kaffeine 0.7, all the latest ^^

Here are places to search for updated packages:

- Go to "easy urpmi" (google that) and select cooker as your distro. Configure the repositories and use urpmi to install the updated packages

- Google "search rpm". There many websites to search for loose rpm packages.
Old 09-14-2005, 10:12 PM   #5
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I'd like to install the .deb packages manager because seemingly, the mandriva distributions do not have a well updated fpt rpm packages
There's nothing wrong with urpmi/RPMDrake, its as good as apt/Synaptic. Mandrake isn't always going to have the latest packages because they release every 6 months, soon to be a year . If they just got the latest packages for everything all the time it would be a very buggy, unstable distro.

Mandrake does have many updated packages, but you have so seek for them.

I'm using firefox 1.0.6, updated my KDE to 3.4.2, I have kaffeine 0.7, all the latest ^^
You don't need to go hunting around for a 'firefox-1.0.6' package. Mandriva backported all the bug fixes and security fixes from firefox-1.0.6 into their firefox-1.0.2 RPM. They didn't change the version number for consistency - like most distros they backport security/bug fixes from later versions so why make a special case out of firefox?

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Old 09-15-2005, 02:24 AM   #6
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Hmm, this whole thing seems pointless. URPMI does the same thing Apt-Get does, and the same thing that Yum does for that matter. In fact, for rpm's (which is what you have to use in Mandrake) Apt-Get ain't all that great. Stick with what you's a package manager...and a good one, why waste the time?

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cigarstub didn't ask for a philosophical discussion of whether he / she should or not : he / she basically just asked if they can

and the answer is yes
but it is pretty involved
and probably not recommended for someone new to linux
nor on a critical machine

remember : Linux is about choice

Mr Swills said
why waste the time

floppy say
why not, its cigarstub's machine

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Yes you Can use apt to check and correct package installation

I agree with "FlyWhopper",
Synaptic, i think, was the program. (avail. on the Power-Pack cd's) Look for the mention of apt.

You also needed apt and a few lib's. But it does work, I,ve done it when I was using mdk.cooker2.

I found it a good way to verify installs and to make sure I have the appropriate dependencies.


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