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Old 10-13-2003, 10:53 PM   #1
abokolor
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Unhappy I need Mandrake-Linux learning manuals


OK, I finally made the big move to dump Windows and load Mandrake Linux 8.1 onto my computer. Now I need to learn how to use it. I checked a couple of bookstores and all their Linux books were for Red Hat. Therefore, I am now reverting to the web for free manuals, instruction guides, tutorials, etc. on MANDRAKE LINUX to help me go from a complete "I-know-nothing-about-Linux-except-to-spell-it's-name" beginning novice, to an intermediate user. Any and all posts for websites that contain free manuals, instruction guides, tutorials, etc. on MANDRAKE LINUX would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Old 10-14-2003, 01:59 AM   #2
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Any book on redhat should be pretty much OK for Mandrake, the reason being that Mandrake is based on RedHat. Mandrake uses the same RPM package system, the same boot procedures, everything.

The only thing you'll not have that the books talk about is the RedHat specific admin / configuration tools. Personally I think it's good not having specific tools - you're far better to learn how to do things by hand.

The book I first learned Linux from was 'The Complete Reference - RedHat Linux' (Osborne Publishing) and I was using Mandrake at the time. (And that big fat Linux book is still invaluable).

Dave

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Old 10-14-2003, 01:59 AM   #3
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http://www.pucmmsti.edu.do/materias/..._TUT/RUTE.html

this might help

and welcome
 
Old 10-14-2003, 05:11 AM   #4
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Try Mandrake linux >documentation.The command line info will be relevant for MDK 8.1.Another usefull place is www.mandrakeuser.org

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Old 10-15-2003, 05:26 AM   #5
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I've just started with Mandrake 9.1 and I *live* with an old (2nd edition) copy of RUNNING LINUX by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (O'Reilly & Associates). Lots of good *nix general information - the section on file ownership and permissions has a permanent bookmark in it.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 09:20 PM   #6
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Also linux in a nutshell (oreilly) is a good book to have around.It has a really good list of commands for cli, I'm always pulling that book off the shelf. tldp.org is a good site worth checking out.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 09:25 PM   #7
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there are of course mandrake's own docs:
http://mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
I found them very useful when I was starting out. Not too much details but enough to get a basic grip on linux command line. And it explains many of the mandrake specific tools.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 10:09 PM   #8
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You don't need documentation for Mandrake Linux. Any Linux documentation is fine, and some Unix documentation is fine.

You may be surprised to learn that you already have thousands of pages of manuals. On your computer. If you want to read about a certain command (when using the command line) enter man <command>. These are the 'man pages.' Unlike Microsoft help files, they are informative, logical, thorough, and helpful. This resource offers nothing for what you want to do in your graphical user interface; it's command-line only.

www.tldp.org aspires to be the documentation site. The learning curve is steep, but you will learn much by reading the GUIDES and HOWTOS at this site. Linux is a fun, powerful system, but as a newbie you will hit roadblocks. Try to look on them as a learning experience, not a chore. Once you gain minimal competence you can run your computer nonstop with almost no administrative work. Graphical applications are pretty self-explanatory, so don't read about them; just use them.

Great books are Running Linux (mentioned above), Linux Desktop Reference (by O'Reilly publishers), and Unix Unleashed. This will teach you how to use the command line.

Whenever you have a particular question, head first to www.google.com/groups. Enter search terms + linux. Everything you're going through has been discussed for years on Usenet.

If you can't find the answer to your particular question at tldp.org OR google groups, then post a question on usenet. This forum is nice, but there's really no traffic. Usenet questions get answered immediately IF they are well-formed, specific questions.

Welcome to the world of Linux! Remember that Linux is your operating system; Mandrake is merely your distribution. All Linux distributions use the same command line interface(s) and run the same software (more or less). What Mandrake gives you is Mandrake Control Center, RPMDrake (software installer) urpmi (another software installer which is awesome!), etc. So any general question you have is most likely NOT Mandrake specific. *But* any question *may* have a distro specific answer, so always identify your distribution when asking for help.

I can't overemphasize how much you can learn at www.google.com/groups, though you must seperate the wheat from the chaff.

When it comes to administering your system, I highly recommend using Webmin. This is a web-based GUI for administering basically anything you could want to do (setup firewall rules, run a mail server, run a webserver, set up a network). It is on your installation media; probably already installed. To login to Webmin you open a web browser and enter the URL: yourhostname:10000.

As a newbie I monitored (daily) the usenet group alt.os.linux.mandrake, and I learned a lot. Other good ones are comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup, etc. Again, don't restrict your troubleshooting queries to websites like this; use USENET.

Another helpful resource is the #linuxhelp channel on the undernet IRC server. Check that out, but have a thick skin. Ask well formed questions and be happy if someone answers it straight away. (This happens often.) If you are ignored, or someone is rude, shrug it off. Come back later, don't repeat yourself over and over. Here are their rules: www.getlinuxhelp.org/rules.php .

Here is a guide to asking good questions about Linux. Remember, real Linux gurus are hackers. Hackers only give good answers to good questions. Don't ask 'does anyone know how to install Java?' Yes, they do. Question answered. Neither should you ask 'Java won't install, what's wrong?' Too vague, you won't get a response. Ask 'I'm running mandrake 9.1. I downloaded the java software but can't get the install to work. Here's the step where it failed, and here's the error message I received.' Then they'll help you immediately, with a smile.

Have fun.

Last edited by mac_phil; 10-15-2003 at 10:40 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2003, 10:49 PM   #9
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no book is good enough to figure out mandrake

garantee even with a book youll be going around in circles
 
Old 10-16-2003, 06:15 AM   #10
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Were do you live ? I've got a set of Mandrake docs that are no use to me. If postage is not too expensive, I'll send them to you.

Other than that, go to mandrakestore, and get yourself a safari membership. It's great, you get access to plenty of books on linux and other. I perticularly recommand "running linux"
 
Old 10-16-2003, 05:11 PM   #11
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Hi, try those ones :
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz
http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/index.shtml
http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
http://www.nostarch.com/
May be they heps!
 
Old 10-22-2003, 06:55 AM   #12
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Here's one I found extremely usefull:
http://www.linux-tutorial.info/cgi-b...pl?224&0&0&0&3

 
  


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