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Old 06-10-2005, 10:06 AM   #1
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Talking I have changed !


Hi all !
I have changed from Fedora 3 to Mandriva LE.
Wow ! what a difference.
Mandriva feels more modern and have a really nice interface.
Everything also works from the start, Sounds, Movie player, Mp3, etc...

I just gotta say : Damn nice !
 
Old 06-10-2005, 10:25 AM   #2
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I've always liked Mandrake more then Redhat. I don't know why... anyway, do you know how to use urpmi? Because that's the meat and potatoes of Mandrake, just as Portage is for Gentoo or Apt for Debian:

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

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Old 06-10-2005, 10:27 AM   #3
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Fedora 3 is essentially bleeding edge software (well, it was when it was released...now Fedora 4 is about to come out), introducing a lot of issues that must be worked out before having a completely functional system. Historically people have had trouble with sound, nvidia cards, and mp3 support (which isn't going to be included at all, even in future versions). Mandriva, on the other hand, uses a bit dated software that works well.

As for the interface...that is transparent in that it is up to you to change. You can make any distro look exactly the same as each other given the right configuration options and software versions.

I find that the menu generation in Mandriva produces a lot of unnecessary stuff, like to get to office: K->office -> word processing -> open office writer. In other systems, it is just k->office->open office. It is all up to what you like anyway, and if you don't...it can be changed!

Glad you like mandriva...
 
Old 06-10-2005, 10:35 AM   #4
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I have used both Fedora and Mandake and Mandrake comes out tops because of the packages available out of the box and the integrated config tools. The only thing that made me stop using it as my main distro was the ver buggy 9.x releases. 2005 LE is quite stable and feature rich.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 11:44 AM   #5
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I agree

I agree ! but how come Fedora gets more attention compared to Mandriva, that is weird to me?
and yes i have checked out ZARB great great place !!!
 
Old 06-10-2005, 12:11 PM   #6
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Re: I agree

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Originally posted by ray alex
I agree ! but how come Fedora gets more attention compared to Mandriva, that is weird to me?
and yes i have checked out ZARB great great place !!!
Mandrake used to get quite a lot of press because it was the most newbie friendly distro a while ago, but that position has been taken by the likes of Xandros, Lycoris and Linspire. Currently Fedora probably gets a lot more press than mandriva because of its relationship with Redhat. Mandrake started of as Redhat+KDE (Redhat didn't ship KDE in those days), then eventually forked into its own distro, which is now more or less incompatible with Redhat/Fedora.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 12:37 PM   #7
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Re: I agree

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I agree ! but how come Fedora gets more attention compared to Mandriva, that is weird to me?
Not here. Mandriva forum has 60000 posts and Fedora has 35000 post :^)

Also DistroWatch points Mandriva second to Ubuntu in access to their reviews page.

I beliave that companies favor Red Hat because their Enterprise Server has more then 50% of the servers market. Look at Intel site, they have drivers for all Red Hat payed versions, but not for mandrake =( (Nothing that can't be worked around)

Am also sad that Mandriva did not appear in the latest FISL (International Forum of Free Software in Porto Alegre - Brasil)
 
Old 06-10-2005, 12:46 PM   #8
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Originally posted by reddazz which is now more or less incompatible with Redhat/Fedora. [/B]
I would say they are very compatible because both follow Linux Standard Base and both are rpm-based.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 01:04 PM   #9
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...but you get all of those nice system-config-* utilities with redhat that make your life so much easier! :-D
 
Old 06-10-2005, 01:07 PM   #10
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Re: Re: Re: I agree

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I would say they are very compatible because both follow Linux Standard Base and both are rpm-based.
What I meant by incompatible is that packages built for Mandrake or Redhat used to work on either distro when Mandrake initially forked from Redhat, but these days thats not usually the case. As for the LSB a lot of distros are LSB complaint but not necessarily technically compatible particularly in terms of package mangement.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 01:19 PM   #11
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What I meant by incompatible is that packages built for Mandrake or Redhat used to work on either distro when Mandrake initially forked from Redhat, but these days thats not usually the case.
I don't know what those people made to create incompatible packages, but this is surely the packagers fault.

On http://www.braillevirtual.fe.usp.br/ we have a rpm download version of our course and that works perfectly with just any LSB-based distro with the same package. The package has mdk written in it's name just because it was built on a Mandrake machine.

Also I have sucessfully installed lots and lots of software from places like rpmfind where few packages have a mandrake version. And that's not to just for simple packages. Lazarus is a very big RAD IDE and was only 1 rpm package for all distros.

Of course I try to use urpmi whenever possible because it solves the "dependency hell".
 
Old 06-10-2005, 08:18 PM   #12
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Its not the packagers fault that the packages don't always work. Mandrake changed the way it named and built rpms for its distro and this is why mandrake packages are not always compatible with Redhat/Fedora. If you read my posts clearly I did say that some packages would work but most would not. It just depends on what you are installing.
 
  


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