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Old 10-14-2004, 08:09 PM   #1
Hiranmanu
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Floopy, Boot from CD. Nothin seems to work for me, help plz


ok well I downloaded the mandrake 10.0 official from the official ftp website. Right I burned all the ISO's on each disc. Ok first of all i edited my bios to load the pc from the cd but that didnt seem to work. so then i tried the boot cdrom.img from the cd and put that on the floppy. then i restarted and it opened up. and from there it said You Have the wrong CD. Then it has options yes no and back. And I cannot seem to get past this stage. i tried putting in disc 2 and 3 and tryin to install from them but of course i knew they wudnt work and they didnt. i would really like to try out mandrake on my pc.

If somebody could help me on this 1 and or give me some more tips on how to load the pc from the cdrom


Please help me ASAP. Thanks alot guys




I'm stuck on the starting line! This is my first ever attempt to install Linux, and it ain't working... :-)

1: I downloaded Mandrake 10.0 from a local mirror; 5 files named mandrake_10_i586_official_cd1.iso (and cd2, cd3 etc). There was no checksum file to go with these files. Download via cable with NetTransport, problemfree.

2. I burned ISO image CDs with "Nero" at low speed (12x).

3. I re-booted with CD-1 in my CD-RW drive

4. Linux installer starts correctly, asking for "upgrade" or "install"; I chose "install".

5. Then I get the following message: "I can't access a Mandrake Linux Installation disc in your CD-Rom drive . Retry?" Retrying doesn't help, so I proceed with "no".

6 Next message: "Please insert Additional Drivers floppy". Since I don't have such a floppy, I press "ok".

7. Next message: "no floppy disk detected. Which driver should I try to gain SCSI access?" followed by a long list of filenames. On chosing any of these, I get asked "Please enter parameters to give to the kernel". Buggered if I know what that was all about... I don't have a SCSI drive anyway...

So this is as far as I got; I have tried booting with CD1, CD2 and CD 3 as I read somewhere on this forum that they are all boot CDs; however, I get the same problem with every disk.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!


Pc Specs:

2.66 GHZ P4 Intel
1 GB RAM
80GB HDD, 250GB HDD
GeForce 5200 128MB

Last edited by Hiranmanu; 10-14-2004 at 08:16 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 11:23 AM   #2
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Re: Floopy, Boot from CD. Nothin seems to work for me, help plz

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Originally posted by Hiranmanu
ok well I downloaded the mandrake 10.0 official from the official ftp website. Right I burned all the ISO's on each disc. Ok first of all i edited my bios to load the pc from the cd but that didnt seem to work. so then i tried the boot cdrom.img from the cd and put that on the floppy. then i restarted and it opened up. and from there it said You Have the wrong CD. Then it has options yes no and back. And I cannot seem to get past this stage. i tried putting in disc 2 and 3 and tryin to install from them but of course i knew they wudnt work and they didnt. i would really like to try out mandrake on my pc.

If somebody could help me on this 1 and or give me some more tips on how to load the pc from the cdrom


Please help me ASAP. Thanks alot guys




I'm stuck on the starting line! This is my first ever attempt to install Linux, and it ain't working... :-)

1: I downloaded Mandrake 10.0 from a local mirror; 5 files named mandrake_10_i586_official_cd1.iso (and cd2, cd3 etc). There was no checksum file to go with these files. Download via cable with NetTransport, problemfree.

2. I burned ISO image CDs with "Nero" at low speed (12x).

3. I re-booted with CD-1 in my CD-RW drive

4. Linux installer starts correctly, asking for "upgrade" or "install"; I chose "install".

5. Then I get the following message: "I can't access a Mandrake Linux Installation disc in your CD-Rom drive . Retry?" Retrying doesn't help, so I proceed with "no".

6 Next message: "Please insert Additional Drivers floppy". Since I don't have such a floppy, I press "ok".

7. Next message: "no floppy disk detected. Which driver should I try to gain SCSI access?" followed by a long list of filenames. On chosing any of these, I get asked "Please enter parameters to give to the kernel". Buggered if I know what that was all about... I don't have a SCSI drive anyway...

So this is as far as I got; I have tried booting with CD1, CD2 and CD 3 as I read somewhere on this forum that they are all boot CDs; however, I get the same problem with every disk.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!


Pc Specs:

2.66 GHZ P4 Intel
1 GB RAM
80GB HDD, 250GB HDD
GeForce 5200 128MB

In the boot option often the newer CDRW?DVD combo drives are listed in Linux as ScSI so you probably do have scsi You dont say if this is a lap top? If it is it would explain the lack of a floppy disk.....

if you want to try linux rather use one of the Knoppix live distros, they boot from the dvd drive and run from that - if you decide you like the OS you can use a USB key to save your settings on, and that means you get to keep the old OS while you mess around with LINUX.

You can even set aside a part of your HDD for this as well and just use the CD to boot from, secure safe and you will still have a working pc when you get bored ( not that ever happens with LINUX)

For real newbies I would recomend Xandros or linspire as they are both good starting points to learn from ( very basic - most like M$) for the more brave punter you can give a dab hand at debian or Fedora Core 2 (Red Hat = red fedora) if you are really crazzzy try LFS Linux from scratch where you have full control to make or break whatever you want. The easiest and most laptop friendly is in MHO SuSe that picks up the SONY screen sonctrollers and powersave functions perfectly.

HTH

Now this is my idea of a bleeding edge distro, YaST with support for .deb pkg manager automatic dependancy checks and file fetch ( if the dependancy dont work it should be able to fetch the right file [dependanct on etc etc] from a list of mirror servers), an X11 or equivalent with KDE 3.3 and GNome 2.6/7
with full RAID (IDE and SCSI) awareness, CF Card (bootable) support on the floppy - as well as the hda - support for ALL the cameras and USB VoIP handsets, in fact it would be loverly if the pkg manager could go get the right driver for the usb device when I plug it in ( One can but wish) with full ndiswrapper support for ALL wifi cards including WIFI MAXX ahh what bliss I am over come with expectation, *sigh*

Oh yes full antivirus support on boot, with a GUI so I can set it up to not allow the new type of emailer scammers to download all my damn emails and send to thier buddies grrrrrr

BUt that is just a small part of my wish list for my perfect distro, the next part would be support for the people who cannot even use computers because they are disabled and cannot read/type etc, a GUI that does NOT require a IT Degree to use - now THAT would be something, and if anyone wants to help me to build this please email me
genesisproject4literacy.org.uk ahh oh yes the file system reiser 4 looks yummy too!

Just my thought for the day
 
Old 10-15-2004, 12:13 PM   #3
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If you got your CD images from a Mandrake mirror, there should have been four files, the three CD images which end in .iso, and one md5sum text file named:

Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download.md5.asc

The md5sum for each of the three .iso images is included in the above file.

Since you were unable to boot from the first or second CD, and unable to use the floppy image to access the CD, you can try the hd_grub.img (this image permits you to use the .iso images directly from your hard drive), then direct it to the .iso image files on your hard drive (if they are still there, and the md5 sums match). If you do not have an md5sum utility, there is one for Windows / DOS here

An other option is to get the boot.iso image (about 8MB), burn it to CD, and use the ftp install. You may need to know the URL for the mirror you want to use.

A further note, Mandrakelinux 10.1 (Official) is scheduled for release today (10/15/2004). It has not appeared on the mirrors yet, but we should be able to get the new release soon (my guess is within the next few weeks) since they make new releases available to club members first. You may want to wait for 10.1

HTH,
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #4
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ok thanks for the help i just got downloadin some more from another mirror,


btw this file Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download.md5.asc what does it do. do i need to burn it? what do i do with it
 
Old 10-16-2004, 02:38 AM   #5
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Dunno what techie_one's post was about as it didn't seem to address the question. Though indeed LiveCD distros are great to play with.

Mandrake also has good LiveCD versions as Mandrake Mobile and SAM...


Anyway the MD5 file is used to verify your downloaded images.

You can use the md5 program to compare the numerical crc within the md5 file against the downloaded ISO's to see if they are correct.

Note however that while you may have a perfectly downloaded copy of Linux, often there are problems when moving burned CD's from one machine to another.

That is that the machine you are burning the CD may not be creating something that is compatible with the laptop you are trying to install Linux on.

Also some laptop bioses are a bit brain dead when it comes to the boot loader.

Finally laptops can be especially problematic for some kernel versions (this has really nothing to do with a particular distro as it's more kernel related...).

That may mean that the CD/DVD rom drive may "disappear" to the installer as it may be missing a key module required to get Linux to understand how to deal with the drive on the laptop.

Checkout the Linux Laptop web pages for more info and fixes.


Google for MD5 CRC for Windows versions too.
 
  


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