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Old 02-21-2005, 08:43 PM   #16
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Gezz Alex calm down, I didnt realize you were signed on, maybe you shouldn't have clicked 'yes' to 'remember password' back at ya.

I know what was posted in other prior posts and obviously it hasn't worked if I've done everything that I've been told to do. Most user-friendly distro my you-know-what.

Screw this, I'm not wasting my time just to get it to boot up and then more time trying to get it to work half as well as Windows. Let the flaming begin becuase it won't auto recognize a mainstream VGA card.
 
Old 02-21-2005, 10:14 PM   #17
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Gezz Alex calm down, I didnt realize you were signed on, maybe you shouldn't have clicked 'yes' to 'remember password' back at ya.
i never click on the remember thing and so thought u did "something else" to sign in as me

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I know what was posted in other prior posts and obviously it hasn't worked if I've done everything that I've been told to do. Most user-friendly distro my you-know-what.
urpmi kernel-source gave you an error? i think you never even tried doing that as told in a couple posts

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Screw this, I'm not wasting my time just to get it to boot up and then more time trying to get it to work half as well as Windows. Let the flaming begin becuase it won't auto recognize a mainstream VGA card.
quitter eh? u should try the urpmi again cause there is no way you got an error. btw linux can work twice as well as windows without the gui too
 
Old 02-22-2005, 12:57 PM   #18
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I told you that I did everything and that:

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# rmmod nvidia didn't work, I also tried rmmod nv
I'm not sabotaging the damn distro. you think I'm not doing what you tell me so that it won't work and so then I can say Widnows is better than Mandrake? My god, Widowns can atleast recognize my Geforce!!! That has to be the most mainstream card out there, WTF?!?!?! Yea, call me a quitter, I gave this POS way too much of my time. I'd much rather be going to parties than trying to get Linux to work. More like it's not worth anymore of my time.
 
Old 02-22-2005, 10:39 PM   #19
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Yes of course that didn't work.

You have too much of a windows mentality, as you stopped at this point without continuing.

You did not install the kernel source tree as indicated hence your trouble.


If you wish to bitch about Linux go elsewhere.

If you want help with a problem, try helping YOURSELF first, then post a question.

As it is, thus far you are indeed a quitter, stumped at the very first hurdle.

Linux may not be for you.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 08:34 PM   #20
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Oh that's right, I was following YOUR steps word for word and it didn't work. Then you act all superior telling me that I didn't. I don't mind getting help, but not from someone like you. Oh and you're right, I should have helped myself by staring at the shell and try typing in random commands, genius.

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If you want help with a problem, try helping YOURSELF first, then post a question.
Wait, wait, I sorta remember something, oh yea, it was making this topic, about a damn question, after trying to help myself!

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It doesn't seem that you've been listening.
Take it from yourself.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 08:51 PM   #21
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You have too much of a windows mentality, as you stopped at this point without continuing.
Dude, this is exactly why users are not switching to linux. They come for help and they get "you still in a windows mentality, go back to windows"

If you view the LQ rules and its says: " Do not post if you do not have anything constructive to say in the post."

aside..i talked to patricodog and he did do all the urpmi stuff and did install the kernel-source..and did everything you said

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I'm not sabotaging the damn distro. you think I'm not doing what you tell me so that it won't work and so then I can say Widnows is better than Mandrake?
nobody said you were trying to sabotage the distro
but simply because you had some trouble with the install doesnt mean that linux is worse...you should try to set it up(and if things get tough DONT quit) and use it..as i said "linux can work twice as well as windows without the gui too"

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Linux may not be for you.
not a flame but...who the f*** are you to tell someone if linux is for them or not....i think this is a problem some ppl in the linux community have
simply because the user could not get linux to work...or are having trouble..instead of trying to help out they say "linux may not be for you"
COMON..some real help! (id help..but i dont know what to do to fix it)

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:05 PM   #22
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But when there are 100s of other distros out there that don't have the trouble with my video card that mandrake does, what's a reason not to? If it's taking me this long (and still counting) to even get into the GUI OS, then what reason would I have to think that once I'm in, it will be any better? Each distro that I've tried so far has fixed a lot of the problems that I've had with the others but also introduced many more. I guess it's just finding the distro that is least flawed.

SUSE - YAST2 is the worst program manager I have used to date. And you thought Win XP froze a lot.

FEDORA C 3 - No NTFS support and following the guides to get it to read the fs is just as frustrating, even if you follow them perfectly.

Mandrake - If a distro can't recognize a GeForce 6800 on it's own then it has problems.

Win XP - Yea it has it's problems, but all you need to do to install programs is double-click... Go figure.

opjose, I'm sure you're a good guy, but really, when your own instructions don't work, you don't have to bash on me. It doesn't make you any bigger of a man.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 09:33 PM   #23
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I guess you only have our word that Mandrake is better..but from my (limited) experience it is far better...so from my experience and especially because mandrake has urpmi you should try to fix it and not change distros...though i guess thats what the distros are for..to find something that works for u (but unless you have apt-get or something similar you will hate installation b/c of the dependencies..which is why i think you should try to get mandrake up)

ive not had a single problem with it so far (while i had a major problem in suse)...besides setting up my wireless card..which was really easy

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opjose, I'm sure you're a good guy, but really, when your own instructions don't work, you don't have to bash on me. It doesn't make you any bigger of a man.
I agree, but also that when you make posts and write some stupid stuff like you did you drive people away from linux, instead of trying to help them and convert them to linux
 
Old 02-23-2005, 10:02 PM   #24
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Ill keep Mandrake on my Partition for a bit longer then. If you can figure out a way to get the kernel to update or whatever it is I'm supposed to do then I'll do whatever it takes.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 12:13 AM   #25
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Originally posted by rksprst

not a flame but...who the f*** are you to tell someone if linux is for them or not....i think this is a problem some ppl in the linux community have
simply because the user could not get linux to work...or are having trouble..instead of trying to help out they say "linux may not be for you"
COMON..some real help! (id help..but i dont know what to do to fix it)
Hmmm... This qualifies as a flame.

So I'll as YOU the same question... who the f**** are you to jump in?

I don't think I asked for your opinion....


The original poster was far too quick to go no further, instead resorting to badmouthing Linux because it was "too difficult" for him.

The observation is absolutely true. Linux may not be for him as tweaking is usually required.

Some people will not, or do not have the time to invest in working with it.

However his critizisms were neither constructive or seeking help.


I don't see you listed as a mod, oh, wait I don't see you providing any help either...

Well damn.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 12:20 AM   #26
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Originally posted by patricodog


opjose, I'm sure you're a good guy, but really, when your own instructions don't work, you don't have to bash on me. It doesn't make you any bigger of a man.
You are correct.

However giving up so fast is IMHO taking a stilted view of the situation.

If Linux has been so problematic for you, the problem lies not with linux, but the manufacturers who refuse to support it or at worst releast the specs for their equipment.

This creates the rather strange situation the novice finds him/her self in.

e.g. that things may not work out of the box for them, while it works perfectly for others.

I for one am not happy to see people have problems with it, as it's a great effort which I've been supporting for more years than you know.

However when someone indicates that they are jumping ship, because they can't afford the time, this is usually a clear indication that Linux may not indeed be for them... for whatever reasons.

I guess I shouldn't jump on your case for the why's and the wherefors since everyone have their own constraints and reasons.

However venting frustration here, to a bunch of people who are trying to help, is also counter productive....

so excuse me for jumping the gun, so to speak....
 
Old 02-24-2005, 01:34 AM   #27
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The observation is absolutely true. Linux may not be for him as tweaking is usually required.
Some people will not, or do not have the time to invest in working with it.
There is a part of the linux community, that when asked for help..and the person doesnt understand what to do, or is having trouble fixing the problem...the people say "linux might not be for you"..exactly what you said..i really hate this attitude...just because he is new to linux and doesnt understand why he can't just double click to install a program, that doesnt mean that he is not ready for linux!! it only means that he needs time and help to adjust to linux!

eh you know what sometimes you need some self-control
so im not gonna say anything more
 
Old 02-24-2005, 04:02 AM   #28
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"eh you know what sometimes you need some self-control"


Yes you certainly do, as you came into this saga on the tail end without having read the prior posts.

"so im not gonna say anything more"

Oh, please let this be so!
 
Old 02-24-2005, 07:11 PM   #29
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Yes you certainly do, as you came into this saga on the tail end without having read the prior posts.
hmm..it seems you didnt read the prior posts cause i was the FIRST one to reply to this thread and i even "translated" what you told patricodog to do, cause he didnt understand what you posted

again self-control here

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Old 02-26-2005, 11:48 PM   #30
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Originally posted by rksprst
hmm..it seems you didnt read the prior posts cause i was the FIRST one to reply to this thread and i even "translated" what you told patricodog to do, cause he didnt understand what you posted

again self-control here

Yes exercise it!
 
  


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