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Old 11-12-2006, 09:39 AM   #1
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CPU running above the threshold temperature


I just installed Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official on my Toshiba Satellite laptop. Everything works great, but when I open the GNOME terminal it keeps saying:

Message from syslogd@localhost at {today's date}
localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold

Message from syslogd@localhost at {today's date}
localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode

Is it dangerous to the computer? Should anything be done about it?
 
Old 11-12-2006, 11:07 AM   #2
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If the threshold (trip-point) is correctly configured on your system ... then yes, it is bad.

Overheating the processor will cause damage.

Normally ACPI can take care of enabling your fans to cool down the processor.
Make sure your cooling system is working ... make sure ACPI is working ... verify if your trip-points are correct.

I would suggest reading up on ACPI.
 
Old 11-13-2006, 12:42 PM   #3
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Could this issue be really dangerous for the hard drive too? Yesterday I tried to reinstall windows xp on a separate partition from an image and it didn't work because of some errors on the disk as it said. Is there a way to check a FAT or NTFS partition for errors from Linux?
 
Old 11-13-2006, 07:35 PM   #4
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Not sure about over-heating the HDD, nor any Linux utilities to perform a disk check on a FAT or NTFS partition.
 
Old 12-06-2006, 04:58 PM   #5
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I now installed Mandriva 2007. The problem is still there. The interesting thing, however, is that it only happens in KDE and GNOME, in IceWM I can work in terminal without these messages appearing.
 
Old 12-07-2006, 02:44 AM   #6
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most likely misconfigured toshiba kernel module,
or not suitable for your laptop, or threshold too low
Look if T is displayed in logs.
Look as root into
cat /proc/acpi/tosh/thermal (something of the like)

restart PC and read T from within BIOS
(Many bios display the T) you will get an idea of the
real T.

install lmsensors (lm_sensors), not always that easy to configure, but will give you another idea of T
 
Old 12-08-2006, 12:44 AM   #7
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My /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is just empty. BIOS does not show the CPU temperature.
 
Old 12-08-2006, 02:24 AM   #8
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I know there is an ibm and toshiba kernel module for laptop
as root try
lsmod | grep -i tosh

Quote:
My /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ just empty
I have /proc/acpi/ibm
so have you /proc/acpi/toshiba or the like

If empty no surprise the kernel returns rubbish T
 
Old 12-10-2006, 05:03 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
lsmod | grep -i tosh
This give nothing. Even no error result, just the command line appears again.

Quote:
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If empty no surprise the kernel returns rubbish T
Looks like you are right. I have no such folder. Do you know how can I get it?
 
Old 12-11-2006, 02:11 AM   #10
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I have no such folder. Do you know how can I get it?
the first thing would be to check tosh was compiled with your kernel
Have you installed the kernel source?
as root
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig (do not save anything)

Sound like your tosh is not recognised, what is the exact model?

If you just want to get ride of message you could try
modprobe -R acpi
You will no acpi anymore
the other solution is to try to force the toshiba nodule in
modprobe --force tosh (check syntax)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
lsmod | grep -i tosh
Post whole lsmod
 
Old 12-11-2006, 01:01 PM   #11
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Thanks for the assistance. I didn't install the kernel source, it is not listed in the software management. And a directory /usr/src/linux does not exist. Model of my laptop is Toshiba Satellite A30-554.

This is what lsmod gives:

Module Size Used by
ipt_IFWLOG 3780 2
ipt_psd 44488 1
ip_set_iptree 7368 2
eth1394 17380 0
xt_tcpudp 3776 11
xt_state 2688 12
xt_pkttype 2496 4
iptable_raw 2496 0
xt_CLASSIFY 2464 0
xt_CONNMARK 2912 0
xt_MARK 2976 0
xt_length 2592 0
xt_connmark 2592 0
xt_physdev 3024 0
xt_policy 4320 6
xt_multiport 3904 4
xt_conntrack 2976 0
ipt_ULOG 7204 0
ipt_TTL 2752 0
ipt_ttl 2464 0
ipt_TOS 2688 0
ipt_tos 2240 0
ipt_TCPMSS 4288 0
ipt_set 3008 2
ipt_SAME 2976 0
ipt_REJECT 5184 4
ipt_REDIRECT 2848 0
ipt_recent 10188 0
ipt_owner 2560 0
ipt_NETMAP 2752 0
ipt_MASQUERADE 3936 0
ipt_LOG 7232 10
ipt_iprange 2432 0
ipt_hashlimit 8168 0
ipt_ECN 3424 0
ipt_ecn 2752 0
ipt_DSCP 2688 0
ipt_dscp 2272 0
ipt_CLUSTERIP 7652 0
ipt_ah 2496 0
ipt_addrtype 2432 0
ip_set_portmap 4896 0
ip_set_macipmap 4836 0
ip_set_ipmap 4896 0
ip_set_iphash 7908 0
ip_set 19196 11 ip_set_iptree,ipt_set,ip_set_portmap,ip_set_macipmap,ip_set_ipmap,ip_set_iphash
ip_nat_irc 2912 0
ip_nat_tftp 2272 0
ip_nat_ftp 3648 0
ip_conntrack_irc 6000 1 ip_nat_irc
ip_conntrack_tftp 4088 1 ip_nat_tftp
ip_conntrack_ftp 6960 1 ip_nat_ftp
iptable_nat 7652 0
ip_nat 15692 8 ipt_SAME,ipt_REDIRECT,ipt_NETMAP,ipt_MASQUERADE,ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp,iptable_nat
ip_conntrack 48320 13 xt_state,xt_CONNMARK,xt_connmark,xt_conntrack,ipt_MASQUERADE,ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp,ip_co nntrack_irc,ip_conntrack_tftp,ip_conntrack_ftp,iptable_nat,ip_nat
nfnetlink 5912 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
iptable_mangle 3104 1
iptable_filter 3232 1
ip_tables 12740 4 iptable_raw,iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter
x_tables 12132 40 ipt_IFWLOG,ipt_psd,xt_tcpudp,xt_state,xt_pkttype,xt_CLASSIFY,xt_CONNMARK,xt_MARK,xt_length,xt_connma rk,xt_physdev,xt_policy,xt_multiport,xt_conntrack,ipt_ULOG,ipt_TTL,ipt_ttl,ipt_TOS,ipt_tos,ipt_TCPMS S,ipt_set,ipt_SAME,ipt_REJECT,ipt_REDIRECT,ipt_recent,ipt_owner,ipt_NETMAP,ipt_MASQUERADE,ipt_LOG,ip t_iprange,ipt_hashlimit,ipt_ECN,ipt_ecn,ipt_DSCP,ipt_dscp,ipt_CLUSTERIP,ipt_ah,ipt_addrtype,iptable_ nat,ip_tables
ipv6 237120 14
usblp 12352 0
snd_seq_dummy 3620 0
snd_seq_oss 31392 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7072 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 49488 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
8139too 22880 0
mii 5664 1 8139too
snd_seq_device 7212 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 40384 0
snd_mixer_oss 16096 1 snd_pcm_oss
af_packet 17960 2
snd_atiixp 16172 1
snd_ac97_codec 96868 1 snd_atiixp
snd_ac97_bus 2848 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 70116 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 19620 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 8712 2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
snd 46500 11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_t imer
soundcore 8096 1 snd
video 13924 0
thermal 11240 0
processor 21448 1 thermal
fan 4036 0
container 3968 0
button 5808 0
battery 8260 0
ac 4292 0
ide_cd 35776 0
binfmt_misc 9800 1
loop 15400 0
nls_cp437 6464 1
vfat 11104 1
fat 46876 1 vfat
nls_utf8 2624 2
ntfs 266940 1
reiserfs 255044 1
dm_mod 49944 0
pcmcia 31948 0
yenta_socket 24268 1
rsrc_nonstatic 11808 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 34644 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
cpufreq_ondemand 6956 0
cpufreq_conservative 6952 0
cpufreq_powersave 2400 0
p4_clockmod 5604 0
speedstep_lib 4484 1 p4_clockmod
freq_table 4800 1 p4_clockmod
ati_agp 7852 1
agpgart 27240 1 ati_agp
nvram 8104 0
ohci1394 32240 0
ieee1394 286264 2 eth1394,ohci1394
ehci_hcd 29160 0
ohci_hcd 19012 0
usbcore 113472 4 usblp,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
tsdev 7040 0
joydev 8928 0
evdev 8864 2
ext3 124936 2
jbd 51028 1 ext3
 
Old 12-12-2006, 02:25 AM   #12
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hum nothing there, we are not going to solve that one easily, and I know of other people with same problem

install slocate package
updatedb
locate tosh

also post result of
ls -l /dev/nvram

install the kernel source
 
Old 12-12-2006, 05:08 PM   #13
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Thanks for your replies again. I intalled the kernel source today. Here's what locate tosh says:

/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Infrared/infrared-howto-s-toshiba-notebooks.html

Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:00:31 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold
/usr/share/icons/ikons/32x32/mimetypes/apple_macintosh.png
/usr/share/icons/ikons/48x48/mimetypes/apple_macintosh.png
/usr/share/X11/xkb/geometry/macintosh
/usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/macintosh
/usr/share/X11/xkb/keymap/macintosh
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/apple
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/ch
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/de
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/dk
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/es
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/fi
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/fr
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/gb
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/is
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/it
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/nl
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/no
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/pt
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/se
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/us

Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:00:31 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode
/usr/share/apps/kivio/stencils/Dia/Cisco/macintosh.png
/usr/share/apps/kivio/stencils/Dia/Cisco/macintosh.shape
/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-vnd.adobe.photoshop.desktop
/usr/share/dia/shapes/Cisco/macintosh.png
/usr/share/dia/shapes/Cisco/macintosh.shape
/usr/lib/libgphoto2/2.2.1/toshiba_pdrm11.la
/usr/lib/libgphoto2/2.2.1/toshiba_pdrm11.so
/usr/include/linux/toshiba.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/char/toshiba.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/Makefile
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/Kconfig
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/macio_asic.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/adb-iop.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/adb.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/adbhid.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/ans-lcd.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/apm_emu.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/mac_hid.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/macio-adb.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/macio_sysfs.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/mediabay.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/nvram.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/smu.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/therm_adt746x.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/therm_pm72.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/therm_pm72.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/via-maciisi.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/via-cuda.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/via-macii.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/via-pmu68k.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/via-pmu.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_core.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_cpufreq_clamp.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_lm75_sensor.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_max6690_sensor.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_pid.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_pid.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_pm112.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_pm81.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_pm91.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_smu_controls.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_smu_sat.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/drivers/macintosh/windfarm_smu_sensors.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/include/asm-m68k/macintosh.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.17-6mdv/include/linux/toshiba.h
/lib/modules/2.6.17-5mdv/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko.gz
/lib/modules/2.6.17-5mdv/kernel/drivers/char/toshiba.ko.gz
[guest@localhost ~]$
Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:01:11 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold

Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:01:11 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode

Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:01:19 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold

Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Dec 12 23:01:19 2006 ...
localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode


ls -l /dev/nvram gives this:

cr-------- 1 guest root 10, 144 Dec 12 22:13 /dev/nvram
 
Old 12-13-2006, 03:39 AM   #14
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I had the same problem using 2007 and kde, but not on a lap top, I opened my case, cleaned out the fans and put some more heatsink paste between my heat sink and cpu and problem solve.

this is the first thing I would check.
If your laptop is a year or so old it might be dust and crap in the fans, if it is ew it might be a bad seal on the heatsink (if new should be under garantee)

May not hapen in ice as it is a lighter desktop and used less processor time, so it stays cooler.
 
  


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