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Old 06-14-2004, 04:32 PM   #1
jamesarcher
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ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB 600MHz SLOW!


Just got myself a copy of Mandrake 10.0 and everything installed ok all my hardware detected perfectly and my ADSL was enabled by default. I was quite supprised being a previous MS Windows user and basic Red Hat 9 user that the system did not need configuring. The thing thats bugging me at the moment is that altho my radeon installed itself correctly and hardware 3d acceleration is enabled there is verty slow and choppy performance on 3d apps such as Tux Racer. I have tried to install the new ATi drivers (file name: fglrx-4.3.0-3.0.i386.rpm) for linux and get the following error:


Installation failed:
file /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from install of fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0 conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-30mdk


I looked on the ATi site and they suggested the following commands:

rpm -Uh --force fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0.i386.rpm

With that command i get the following error:

error: cannot open lock file ///var/lib/rpm/RPMLOCK in exclusive mode
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

The other comman suggested was:

rpm -e --nodeps XFree86-Mesa-libGL

With that command i get the following error:

error: package XFree86-Mesa-libGL is not installed

So i'm a bit stuck

Any help is well appritiated and if anyone knows how to install Microsoft Office (Preferably Excel) with Wine (or something similar) let me know
 
Old 06-14-2004, 08:25 PM   #2
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I too tried out mandrake recently on my 800mHz system with other similar hardware.
Same problem. Slow. Not only in graphics but all around. I checked forums as well as any mandrake irc channel i could think of and i ended up at square one because no one realy had an answer other than "get a newer/faster system".
The thing I have noticed, along with other .rpm distro's is that they just arent that snappy in response, even with DMA, the 2.6.6 kernel running kde 3.2 or even fluxbox or blackbox...nothing noticable
I got frustrated and ended up reinstalling slackware again and presto, smooth streaming graphics, even with the default radeon X driver.
sorry this was more of an opinion than an answer to your problem, but giving up performance for ease of use just aint my thing. Although mandrake is one hell of a disrto for a beginner and/or straight up desktop use, i get along fine by other means.
Good luck

Last edited by mipia; 06-14-2004 at 08:31 PM.
 
Old 06-15-2004, 02:52 AM   #3
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Thanks for ur opinion

Maybe i should have posted my system specs so people do not get confused. My CPU is not 600MHz thats the version on my 9600 (theres a 400MHz and a 600MHz)

Mandrake itself runs smooth and quick its just the gfx (runs 2D apps quick its just the 3D)

System Specs

Intel Pentium 4 1.6GHz
512MB DDR266
Maxtor Diamond Max 9 7200RPM 80GB (30GB Mandrake 50GB Windows)
Sony 52X CDRW
Artec 16X DVD-ROM
ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB 600MHz Memory Clock
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Player 6.1
Hauppage WinTV Go!

When i was on Red Hat 9 the radeon drivers would install but i couldnt access them so i had the same issue fast in 2D apps and slow in 3D its just like madrake had its own custom version of XFREE86 which is conflicting with the driver. I think if it was the same version it would install but i dont know how to do it
 
Old 06-16-2004, 12:03 PM   #4
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I'm having the same 3D troubles that you are James, everything else is smooth as silk. I looked at the same ATI drivers as you but I noticed one little potential problem shown here:

http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#6

ATI states under question 6 that they do not yet support kernel 2.6.

Now, I'm an absolute linux newb and as such I have no idea what you can get away with or work around, but that might be a starting point for a solution.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

-Arch
 
Old 06-16-2004, 04:27 PM   #5
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Yeah arch i noticed that earlier today i also checked the XFREE86 support list and found that 3D support is not included on the 9600, 9700, & 9800 series card. I decided to try the 9200SE 128MB out of my other machine and what i supprise 3D came on. I still have an issue as my opengl is all mangled and i cant install the ATi drivers as of the kernel issue. I must have re-installed mandrake about 5 times today trying to make the 9600 work so at the moment i'm waitng for the ATi driver update oh and one more thing DONT install XFREE86 4.4.0 on Mandrake 10.0 it buggers up big time and u cant get back into KDE or GNOME but only some really shit GUI with a console window in the middle and a shutdown button at the side lol!
 
Old 06-17-2004, 03:04 AM   #6
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Ok my opengl issue is only with UT2004. All of my other opengl games (e.g. Enemy Terretory & Cube) work fine
 
Old 06-17-2004, 06:10 PM   #7
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Re: ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB 600MHz SLOW!

Quote:
Originally posted by jamesarcher
Just got myself a copy of Mandrake 10.0 and everything installed ok all my hardware detected perfectly and my ADSL was enabled by default. I was quite supprised being a previous MS Windows user and basic Red Hat 9 user that the system did not need configuring. The thing thats bugging me at the moment is that altho my radeon installed itself correctly and hardware 3d acceleration is enabled there is verty slow and choppy performance on 3d apps such as Tux Racer. I have tried to install the new ATi drivers (file name: fglrx-4.3.0-3.0.i386.rpm) for linux and get the following error:


Installation failed:
file /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from install of fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0 conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-30mdk


I looked on the ATi site and they suggested the following commands:

rpm -Uh --force fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0.i386.rpm

With that command i get the following error:

error: cannot open lock file ///var/lib/rpm/RPMLOCK in exclusive mode
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm


hi, i just been playing with mandrake as well, and got exactly the same error,

Installation failed:
file /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from install of fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0 conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-30mdk

so i went to the ati site and got the exact same info you did

rpm -Uh --force fglrx-4.3.0-3.9.0.i386.rpm

so i ran it and then got the exact same error as you

error: cannot open lock file ///var/lib/rpm/RPMLOCK in exclusive mode
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

i found that logging in as root user fixed that issue for me (just goto console window and type su and then root password, that should fix that error, i then ran into other problems and still didnt get it working(so ive switched to suse now) but it might be helpfull for you
 
Old 06-17-2004, 06:33 PM   #8
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I don't know if this pertains to you guys, but what the hey! Give it a try!

Try this (taken from user euth665667 in my thread in the GAMES section http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=186549 ):

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My solution was to convert the rpm using rpmt2tgz,
extracting the file into a temporary directory,
remove the /lib/modules/fglrx directory,
move the fglrx directory from the extracted tgz to /lib/modules/fglrx

Then you just have to run the make.sh(in /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod), and make_install.sh(in /lib/modules/fglrx) scripts and you should be good to go.

Hopefully this helps.
---------------

Are you guys installing these ATI drivers in root mode?

I use Mandrake 9.1, Kernel 2.4.21, ATI drivers 3.2.5, and everything runs fine. So just a tip for you new Linux users coming from Windows: higher version number does NOT mean better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!!!! That's my golden suggestion for Linux newbies

Last edited by Micro420; 06-17-2004 at 06:36 PM.
 
  


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