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Old 11-09-2007, 11:27 AM   #1
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Accessing Creative Zen V Plus using Amarok

I'm trying to use Amarok to access my Creative Zen V Plus. Instructions say "Libmtp relies on your user being able to do usb operations. If you have installed libmtp yourself, be sure to read the sections on Hotplugging and Udev in the INSTALL file. Amarok will not work with MTP if you do not have the correct permissions on the MTP device." How do I tell if the correct permissions are set?
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If you plug in your Zen and run "mtp-detect" from the console, and it doesn't connect as a user but does when you run it as root, then the permissions are wrong. You need to make sure the libmtp rules are added to your udev configuration and that udev has been restarted. After that, you should have the proper permissions automatically applied once the device node is created.
Old 11-10-2007, 07:45 AM   #3
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Thanks for your response. The first couple of lines of mtp-detect are:

libmtp version: 0.2.1

Attempting to connect device(s)
Detect: Successfully connected 1 devices

so I guess it connected. The output is identical when run either as a regular user or as root. There is also a file /etc/udev/rules.d/60-libmtp.rules which has the following content which I really don't know is right or not. (Sorry for the long post)

# UDEV-style hotplug map for libmtp
# Put this file in /etc/udev/rules.d

ACTION!="add", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", GOTO="libmtp_rules"
# The following line will be deprecated when older kernels are phased out.
SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", GOTO="libmtp_rules"



# Creative Zen Vision
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="411f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Portable Media Center
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4123", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Xtra (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4128", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Second generation Dell DJ
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="412f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Micro (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4130", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Touch (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4131", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Dell Pocket DJ (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4132", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Sleek (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4137", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen MicroPhoto
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="413c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Sleek Photo
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="413d", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Vision:M
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="413e", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen V
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4150", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Vision:M (DVP-HD0004)
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4151", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen V Plus
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4152", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Creative Zen Vision W
ATTR{idVendor}=="041e", ATTR{idProduct}=="4153", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-920
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5022", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-925GS
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5024", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-820
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="502e", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-925(-GS)
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="502f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-J70J
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5033", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-Z5
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="503c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-Z5 2GB
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5041", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-T7J
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5047", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-U2J (YP-U2JXB/XAA)
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5054", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-F2J
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5057", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-K5
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="505a", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-U3QB/XER
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="507c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-U3
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="507d", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-T9
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="507f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YP-K3
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5081", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung YH-999 Portable Media Center / Samsung SGH-A707
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="5a0f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung X830 Mobile Phone
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="6702", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Samsung U600 Mobile Phone
ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="6709", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Intel Bandon Portable Media Center
ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="00c9", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# JVC Alneo XA-HD500
ATTR{idVendor}=="04f1", ATTR{idProduct}=="6105", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips HDD6320/00 and HDD6330/17
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="014b", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips HDD1630/17
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="014c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips HDD085/00 and HDD082/17
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="014d", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips GoGear SA9200
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="014f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips GoGear Audio
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="0165", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips PSA610
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="0181", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips HDD6320
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="01eb", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Philips PSA235
ATTR{idVendor}=="0471", ATTR{idProduct}=="7e01", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa m230/m240
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7400", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa c150
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7410", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa e200/e250/e260/e270/e280
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7420", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa e280
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7421", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa c250
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7450", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa Connect
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7480", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa Express
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7460", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# SanDisk Sansa m240
ATTR{idVendor}=="0781", ATTR{idProduct}=="7430", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver Portable Media Center
ATTR{idVendor}=="1006", ATTR{idProduct}=="4002", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver Portable Media Center
ATTR{idVendor}=="1006", ATTR{idProduct}=="4003", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver iFP-880
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1008", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T10
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1113", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T20 FM
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1114", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T20
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1115", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver U10
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1116", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T10
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1117", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T20
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1118", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T30
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1119", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T10 2GB
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1120", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver N12
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1122", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver Clix2
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1126", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver Clix
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="112a", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver X20
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1132", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver T60
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="1134", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver H10 20GB
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="2101", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# iRiver H10
ATTR{idVendor}=="4102", ATTR{idProduct}=="2102", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Dell DJ Itty
ATTR{idVendor}=="413c", ATTR{idProduct}=="4500", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat MEGF-40
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="0009", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="000c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat P20
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="000f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat S
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="0010", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat P10
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="0011", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Toshiba Gigabeat U
ATTR{idVendor}=="0930", ATTR{idProduct}=="0016", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Archos 104 (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e79", ATTR{idProduct}=="120a", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Archos XS202 (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e79", ATTR{idProduct}=="1208", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Archos 504 (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e79", ATTR{idProduct}=="1307", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Archos Gmini XS100
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e79", ATTR{idProduct}=="1207", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Dunlop MP3 player 1GB / EGOMAN MD223AFD
ATTR{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTR{idProduct}=="2200", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Microsoft Zune
ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="0710", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Sirius Stiletto
ATTR{idVendor}=="18f6", ATTR{idProduct}=="0102", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Canon PowerShot A640 (PTP/MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTR{idProduct}=="3139", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Nokia 5300 Mobile Phone
ATTR{idVendor}=="0421", ATTR{idProduct}=="04ba", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Nokia N75 Mobile Phone
ATTR{idVendor}=="0421", ATTR{idProduct}=="04e1", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Nokia N80 Internet Edition (Media Player)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0421", ATTR{idProduct}=="04f1", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Logik LOG DAX MP3 and DAB Player
ATTR{idVendor}=="13d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="7002", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Thomson Opal / RCA Lyra MC4002
ATTR{idVendor}=="069b", ATTR{idProduct}=="0777", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
ATTR{idVendor}=="04c5", ATTR{idProduct}=="1140", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Palm / Handspring Pocket Tunes
ATTR{idVendor}=="1703", ATTR{idProduct}=="0001", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# TrekStor Vibez i.Beat sweez FM
ATTR{idVendor}=="0402", ATTR{idProduct}=="0611", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# TrekStor Vibez 8/12GB
ATTR{idVendor}=="066f", ATTR{idProduct}=="842a", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Disney MixMax
ATTR{idVendor}=="0aa6", ATTR{idProduct}=="6021", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Cowon iAudio 7 (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e21", ATTR{idProduct}=="0751", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Cowon D2 (MTP mode)
ATTR{idVendor}=="0e21", ATTR{idProduct}=="0801", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"
# Isabella's prototype
ATTR{idVendor}=="0b20", ATTR{idProduct}=="ddee", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k"


I didn't start and stop udev explicitly, but I have had the machine powered off and later brought back up.

When I bring up Amarok, I go to Add Device, select "MTP Media Device" and just give it a name such as RichZen. I leave the field blank that asks for a mount point if applicable. I then to to Autodetect devices and get the following error:

"No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window."

Running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" produces the following:

31G Media



155G Media








Again, I apologize for the long post. Would appreciate any suggestions.


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