There would be fewer rubbish posts in this forum if Kali was banned!

Just look at these:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...me-4175617460/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...em-4175617458/

imho neither of these posters know what they are doing.

banning sounds bad to me, if we banned all that we dont like there wouldnt be anything left.

I wonder why a sizeable number of newbies choose kali? I'm sure there's a warning on their download site.

After this thread there is now a link in the Newbie Forum yet still they come...

Originally Posted by petelq I wonder why a sizeable number of newbies choose kali? I'm sure there's a warning on their download site.

i bet they watch mr robot etc and want to be hackers. and once while i was playing americas army 2.5 one player were pissed off and launched ddos attack at my ip, it lasted 3 days. these newbies that hear about ddos attacks like these probably want to learn to do that also.

Ignoring works better than banning in my opinion. Unless you looking for a good smile for your crappy day.
It is drizzling here in the desert. So my click on this thread. Was in search of a grin factor.

Not a pickle. What a hoot.

There is indeed a warning in their documentation that

… it is NOT a recommended distribution if you’re unfamiliar with Linux or are looking for a general-purpose Linux desktop distribution for development, web design, gaming, etc. … there is absolutely no support whatsoever for the apt-add-repository command, LaunchPad, or PPAs. Trying to install Steam on your Kali Linux desktop is an experiment that will not end well. If you are unfamiliar with Linux generally … Kali Linux is probably not what you are looking for.

They can't put it any plainer! But does some-one who picks a distro from a TV comedy read documentation?

i don't think banning is a good idea either.

the problem is not limited to kali linux as a distro; i guess it's just a new generation & the appeal of TV idols.
using linux for penetration etc. becomes a "thing" like maybe smoking your first cigarette.
rebellion is not against actual people (teachers, parents) but rather against operating systems (including linux itself).
reading documentation and adhering to tried principles is something the boring old farts do.
the arrogance of youth.

hardware & software development enable this new generation to just try out things in a vm, without any real loss.
in a way it's a good thing, but it also increases the number of BS threads, like hazel's 2 examples.
inflicting impossible situations upon their systems, because it doesn't really matter anyhow, and then demanding help for it.

i'm sometimes surprised how young these people are.
and from my point of view, there's not much difference between 14 and, say, 18. they're miles away and when i think what I was like at that age, all i can do is shrug and think: they have to work through it, one way or another.
i was a real idiot, full of anger and rebellion venting in all the wrong directions - i just didn't do it sitting at a computer. that's what weirds me out, it seems so pointless.

banning ... no

but having fun ???
" rm -f / "

if they do that then they deserve it

as i recall i think there is a 1000 max on a fork bomb so...

I don't agree with banning it either.

My answer: Just point them to the "Sticky" or the warning on Kali's site. I'm not saying it will work with everyone, but it has worked at least a few times since the "Sticky" it Newbie's was created. The following link is just one example of where it has worked: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...5/#post5776587

I've also noticed that people that have been pointed to either the "Sticky" or the warning on Kali's website, for the most part have not bothered to continue with their thread about Kali.

And if they ant to continue posting questions about Kali anyway's, just ignore their posts. Easy.

Originally Posted by DavidMcCann There is indeed a warning in their documentation that … it is NOT a recommended distribution if you’re unfamiliar with Linux or are looking for a general-purpose Linux desktop distribution for development, web design, gaming, etc. … there is absolutely no support whatsoever for the apt-add-repository command, LaunchPad, or PPAs. Trying to install Steam on your Kali Linux desktop is an experiment that will not end well. If you are unfamiliar with Linux generally … Kali Linux is probably not what you are looking for. They can't put it any plainer! But does some-one who picks a distro from a TV comedy read documentation?

It probably makes it all the more attractive to some.

The lack of hand holding support on their own forum is also why they head off to other forums looking for basic help. If the distro's own forum won't provide support for the basics, neither should this one.

https://forums.kali.org/showthread.p...n-of-the-forum

Any posts that could be answered by a simple internet search or that are pertain to basic linux usage are not needed and will be removed without notice.

If it were down to me I would consider banning it, but you will probably still get posts where the OP just pretends they're using Debian in order to get help.

Blanking banning of topics like this and posts such as #9 are not at all in the spirit of LQ.

--jeremy

I was being sarcastic

"We seem to be getting a lot of posts from Kali users who don't know what they're doing and don't know how to ask for help. What should we do about that?" is what I thought this thread was really asking. Phrased that way, it's a legitimate question.

Originally Posted by dugan "We seem to be getting a lot of posts from Kali users who don't know what they're doing and don't know how to ask for help. What should we do about that?" is what I thought this thread was really asking. Phrased that way, it's a legitimate question.

The same thing we do with other inexperienced users who may or may not put forth effort. We have a recommended response methodology to engage them and try to get them to form better questions.

For all questions, we have the "Welcome to LQ" link, and we have links to the FAQ, as well as the LQ Rules for those who started out of the gate even worse than expected.

For Kali there is also the Kali sticky thread in Newbie. When I see a Kali question that appears to be poorly formed, I point them to that sticky.

I think we all know that we can point users to all the sticky's or references possible. If they aren't going to read them, then they aren't.

Originally Posted by hazel I was being sarcastic

Teach you to blow off a little steam, eh?