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Old 06-27-2010, 02:41 AM   #1
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problem with non-replies


I recently posted about a problem I was having with a video player
in a particular linux distribution. What Im posting about now is
the non-replies I find my post littered with.

In this case, there is nothing unclear about the question I asked...
the problem here is not even that none of the "repliers" could
answer the question... rather it is that they reply with rubbish...
"ey mister, why dont you learn to ask a better question ??".

Indeed, I have discovered, the problem I asked about has gone
unsolved for three years, so perhaps it is unreasonable to have
expected a good answer.

By the way, here is what I asked: how to make VLC work in debian-Lenny.
The subtle inference in that question being, that at present, VLC simply
does not function properly for me... specifically, will not play video,
but only audio. Again there are dozens of posts complaining of the same,
all around the web. Hopefully, some person with the answer will see
this post, and reply(!).

regards
 
Old 06-27-2010, 03:16 AM   #2
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stu, sorry you have not found an answer yet.

I guess you know LQ is generally an awesome place to get help.. usually the answers are already there.

But on newer problems, well obviously everyone else is wrestling with them as well.. and if the maintainers of the programs (developers) are not in the position to help.. then the problem just festers..

I have had problems with deb packages of VLC for several months now.. and have not really looked into it any deeper.. since I have sooo much on my plate now.

The only suggestions I can give is try to compile it-- and or use different (older) versions.. to see if you can get it to work.

VLC is usually a great program.. but if the devs work on it is lacking.. there is little the community can do.. until someone decides to fix/fork the program.


Lettuce know

Last edited by halvy; 06-27-2010 at 03:18 AM.
 
Old 06-27-2010, 03:26 AM   #3
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Hi,

I've just read the thread you are talking about (this one) and in this case I have to agree with jrtayloriv's replies:
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What, specifically, are you having problems with?
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Stu7 -- Please take a look at How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. It's a really good essay, and will help you get answers to technical questions, while you're trying to learn to use Linux.

Nobody is going to be able to help you, until you provide specific information about what your problem is. Saying "It doesn't work." doesn't provide enough information for anybody to diagnose and help you fix the problem you are having.

What kind of errors are you getting, if any? What else have you tried to fix it? What happened when you tried to fix it? Give specifics on your problem, or you will never get specific solutions.
Seems to me that these are polite and could even be called constructive. Hardly the littering you are talking about.

At first I also thought, looking at your subject title (how to install VLC in debian-Lenny ?), that you needed to know how to install vlc on debian (and that's not just me, see replies #3 and #7).

Your description of the problem (not talking about the subject title) does lack information. Can't you install vlc? Does it throw any errors when installing? If it installs without errors what is the actual problem? What have you tried to solve it. Do you see any errors? Very valuable information that can narrow down the problem.

We have to wait until post #4 before we find out that vlc doesn't play video (when using debian lenny).

I personally think that all the answers given are justified, but that's just my 2c. Lets wait and see what opinions others have.

BTW: I'm not trying to bash you in any way, just trying to put things into perspective.
 
Old 06-27-2010, 03:31 AM   #4
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stu, sorry you have not found an answer yet.

I guess you know LQ is generally an awesome place to get help.. usually the answers are already there.

But on newer problems, well obviously everyone else is wrestling with them as well.. and if the maintainers of the programs (developers) are not in the position to help.. then the problem just festers..

I have had problems with deb packages of VLC for several months now.. and have not really looked into it any deeper.. since I have sooo much on my plate now.

The only suggestions I can give is try to compile it-- and or use different (older) versions.. to see if you can get it to work.

VLC is usually a great program.. but if the devs work on it is lacking.. there is little the community can do.. until someone decides to fix/fork the program.


Lettuce know
yep - awesome forum. I seldom have any kind of trouble here. Thanks
for your understanding.
I did a lot of what you suggest... did compile it... did try every version
I could find... but with Lenny something is broken so far as VLC and video
go... I notice this especially with MP4 video from YouTube.
 
Old 06-27-2010, 04:10 AM   #5
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Hi,

I've just read the thread you are talking about (this one) and in this case I have to agree with jrtayloriv's replies:


Seems to me that these are polite and could even be called constructive. Hardly the littering you are talking about.

At first I also thought, looking at your subject title (how to install VLC in debian-Lenny ?), that you needed to know how to install vlc on debian (and that's not just me, see replies #3 and #7).

Your description of the problem (not talking about the subject title) does lack information. Can't you install vlc? Does it throw any errors when installing? If it installs without errors what is the actual problem? What have you tried to solve it. Do you see any errors? Very valuable information that can narrow down the problem.

We have to wait until post #4 before we find out that vlc doesn't play video (when using debian lenny).
several other people have posted some possible answers. Thank you
for replying
 
Old 06-27-2010, 04:23 AM   #6
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Hi,

Nice to see that one other person has replied and that you also found some info in an earlier reply. That might (or might not) fix your vlc thread.

I do wonder though if you still feel the same about "non replies" and the amount of info you initially gave (which this thread is all about). Saying that others replied to your other thread doesn't solve this thread

Anyway, hope you find a solution for your vlc problem.
 
Old 06-28-2010, 08:59 PM   #7
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Hi,

Nice to see that one other person has replied and that you also found some info in an earlier reply. That might (or might not) fix your vlc thread.

I do wonder though if you still feel the same about "non replies" and the amount of info you initially gave (which this thread is all about). Saying that others replied to your other thread doesn't solve this thread

Anyway, hope you find a solution for your vlc problem.
drunna - I fixed it
 
Old 06-29-2010, 05:24 AM   #8
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drunna - I fixed it
uhh.. how?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 05:37 AM   #9
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Hi,

@halvy: stu7 is talking about his original thread (this one), not about the issue that he raised here in this thread.......

The whole non-replies issue doesn't seem to interest him any more.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 06:10 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by druuna View Post
@halvy: stu7 is talking about his original thread
Sure the OP did finally install one library but otherwise the OP did not post back clearly the problem is fixed, which he should do to help others, he just marked the thread "solved" which it isn't.
 
  


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