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Old 04-11-2005, 10:04 AM   #1
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New Forum for Linux-Gurus[Programming/Administration] or Linux-Advanced Users [ Progr

Hi All,

Don’t you feel , It would be a good idea to have a forum for Linux-Gurus[Programming/Administration] or Linux-Advanced Users [ Programming/Administration] for advanced programming / environment /Administration questions . For example I have given a sample question below

The current Linux-Software and Linux General forums are too generic and too high level forums and its flooded with beginner /intermediate level questions. Basically not many gurus will be able to watch the questions and have discussion here cos most of the questions are too beginners level

Can you please accommodate this request?

And the question is

When I do an ls –l on large directory , I am getting the following error, And I found the culprit is ARG_MAX setting and is set to a very low limit. How can I set it to a larger value

> ls –l *
ksh: ls: Argument list too long

> getconf ARG_MAX

Old 04-11-2005, 02:15 PM   #2
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My recommendation would be that if you have a programming question, you should post it in the Programming forum rather than the Software or General forum, as it will get much better exposure there (Programming) than it would elsewhere.

As for creating separate forums for "Advanced" or "Guru" members, I would be opposed for several reasons. First, I'm not sure how and/or who could determine whether someone actually had "advanced/guru" experience and knowledge and thus was qualified to answer the questions, and second, having two sets of forums (one for newbies, one for gurus) would literally double the amount of work needed to run the site. I'm not sure that would really be an improvement, especially since it's a pretty good bet that people would either naturally gravitate to posting questions in the "guru" forum rather than the "newbie" forum, or they would double post and create a thread in both forums. The end result would be the same number of questions, only they'd be in a forum that had a different name. As always, the above is strictly my own 2 cents, nothing more. -- J.W.
Old 04-11-2005, 02:24 PM   #3
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We do have a Enterprise forum which is mainly targeted at the more advanced users, that work in enterprise type enviornments..

And there is always our sister site for more detailed forums for different programming languages..
Old 04-11-2005, 04:05 PM   #4
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I would like to apologize for the thing I will say, if that will offend the author of the thread. There is a very slight line between a guru and a showoff. And the way you distinguish this line is by looking at a person. A showoff talks, a guru helps. And it has nothing to do with forums, their specifications or categorizations. If you asked a question just wait, and the help will come, if not research the topic and rephrase the question according to your new knowledge. And ask again. Keep doing this until the question is not solved or your are bored.
Now going back to your question:

the number you see(131072) is the the maximum command line length for any program, you can check it by
grep ARG_MAX /usr/include/linux/limits.h
since you are using * your shell is trying to convert this wildcard into names and fails when it reaches the ARG_MAX length. I see 2 solutions 1) try to overcome this by using some shell tricks
2) change the value in limits.h and recompile the kernel
Old 04-11-2005, 04:46 PM   #5
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Ok so you made a suggestion but you also asked this question once again in Software. Don't do this as this is cross posting and is against our rules. What you should have done was make two different threads as this forum is not setup to ask technical questions. So anyone that wants to answer his questions in regards to his ARG_MAX issue, direct your browsers here:
Old 04-12-2005, 07:35 PM   #6
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I apologize for having the question posted here. The intention was to show the kind of questions that needs an experts advice should go to a different group were adequate attention will be obtained…

Once again please do not answer the question here I have a diff posting for the same in software forum



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