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Old 10-29-2003, 10:12 PM   #1
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Hi all,

Posts containing information about cracking, piracy, warez, fraud or any topic that could be damaging to either or any third party will be immediately removed.

I feel that the best why to harden your system is to "know your enemy" if you know how they can get in you can stop them, so I think that LQ could relax there rules i.e. (LQ is not responsable for posts containing information about cracking, piracy, warez, fraud or any topic that could be damaging for these people could find the info anyway. Postes asking where to gain access to tools can and will be deleted and/or edited immediately.)

I could be wrong. I just want to know what other people think of this.
Old 10-30-2003, 10:28 PM   #2
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Dude - I'm not a moderator, but this is a really bad idea. If LQ did allow warez, etc, and somebody used that info to damage somebody elses computer system, then any competent attorney will go after any and all parties that may have contributed or otherwise may have provided assistance to those harmful acts. As a result, it's entirely possible that LQ would be shut down, which would be a huge loss and a terribly sad thing. I for one would not want to see that happen, and therefore, I fully support the LQ rules against posts that could cause harm to either LQ or someone else's computer system.

From an academic standpoint, I can see your point that if you knew what kinds of attacks a cracker might attempt, then you might be in a better position to defend yourself, but there are any number of other resources available to get that kind of training and knowledge outside of LQ. Besides, as you say yourself, "information about cracking, warez, etc, or any topic that could be damaging [could be found] by these people anyway." If crackers can find that information already anyway, why would it need to be posted on LQ? Again, in the my 2 cents dept, I don't see that LQ would have anything to gain by allowing these kinds of posts, but it would have everything to lose. -- J.W.
Old 10-31-2003, 02:48 AM   #3
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A question worded in a manner of inquisitry, by a member who has established themselves as a "good member" and is not blatently asking how to crack something or directly asking for warez... is usually replied to and left to be commented on. However, there is a vague, yet fine line between asking how to gain warez, and where you can find out about security. If you read many of the threads in the Security section, even many of the links in the Ultimate Security Thread, you'll find information just as you have requested above, and just as you stated above: for learning purposes.

It's something that is far too close to the border to really give an open interpretation of the rule. So you set a standard. You say "none of this is allowed". And then on a case by case basis you determine if the thread is legit, or if it's not. If it's not, you don't really have to explain yourself, and since this constitutes the majority of those types of threads, the blanket statement is the best choice.

Old 10-31-2003, 08:31 AM   #4
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Plain and simple: Warez and other such activities are deemed as illegal. does and will not put itself in a position that allows such activities; along with the promoting of such activities.
Old 11-02-2003, 02:45 PM   #5
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Thank you all for you input, I just wanted to get some peoples take on this and it was not ment to piss anyone off.
Old 11-02-2003, 10:09 PM   #6
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Personally, I think you do have a valid point about the "knowing your enemy" philosophy. The problem is, no matter how well intentioned your post may be, anyone responding to it and giving you "directions" on how to crack, is in effect writing a how-to for everyone else to see (including those who are less-well intentioned). Allowing that kind of material would really change the personality of LQ for the worse, as well as open Jeremy up to liability issues.


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