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Old 10-25-2010, 01:24 PM   #841
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Hi all,
First things first:
1> Is there anyone here who posts to increase his 'reputation'. We all help because of the fact that there is an issue that needs to be tackled and somehow we can learn and understand more. More than half of my time is spent in reading answers (especially solved) posts. I am here to learn and since I cannot commit all the possible mistakes that are possible I try and see how to relate what I know to what is the issue is. I normally wait for 24 hours to see if someone has a better answer than me.
2> Like I pointed out earlier 'reputation' is too strong a word for a simple thing as a post. Negative marking is unacceptable.
3> I understand that we are changing the system for something better but then actually have we found out what we _really_ want? Unless this question is answered it is a waste of time to even think about changing the simple 'thank you' button. I believe in someone saying a simple 'thank you' than messing my reputation.
 
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:10 PM   #842
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Hi all,
First things first:
1> Is there anyone here who posts to increase his 'reputation'. We all help because of the fact that there is an issue that needs to be tackled and somehow we can learn and understand more. More than half of my time is spent in reading answers (especially solved) posts. I am here to learn and since I cannot commit all the possible mistakes that are possible I try and see how to relate what I know to what is the issue is. I normally wait for 24 hours to see if someone has a better answer than me.
2> Like I pointed out earlier 'reputation' is too strong a word for a simple thing as a post. Negative marking is unacceptable.
3> I understand that we are changing the system for something better but then actually have we found out what we _really_ want? Unless this question is answered it is a waste of time to even think about changing the simple 'thank you' button. I believe in someone saying a simple 'thank you' than messing my reputation.
1) Same here. I don't count 24 hours, I simply subscribe and wait a bit, if no one replies, I do my best (which may not be the best, but it's better than nothing).

2) Maybe. I was originally against negative reps because of negative experiences with this in other forums.

3) Yes, a simple thanks button was simpler and in a way, better.

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Old 10-25-2010, 02:21 PM   #843
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Even if they mess up someone's PC?
Or keep writing their posts in instant messaging shorthand after being asked not to?

Or post obvious homework (or worse, paid work) questions, then give you the IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HELP DON'T WASTE MY TIME attitude when you ask them to at least make an attempt?

Last edited by dugan; 10-25-2010 at 02:22 PM.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 02:29 PM   #844
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I'm really starting to think that the Thanks button was better.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 02:56 PM   #845
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I'm really starting to think that the Thanks button was better.
+.5
 
Old 10-25-2010, 04:50 PM   #846
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Even if they mess up someone's PC?
That's very different from being just wrong with an answer. I still wouldn't down-rep 'em, but I darn sure expect them to be banned forever.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 08:35 PM   #847
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I'm really starting to think that the Thanks button was better.
I have said this before but rephrasing it again, since the thanks feature was demolished, the use of helpful feature has increased a lot.

Perhaps before, the users got confused as to what should they press, the thanks or the helpful, due to which none of both the features got used as desired !
 
Old 10-26-2010, 03:20 AM   #848
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Here is what I think a plain mis-use of the repute system:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...4/#post4112112

The OP disagreed with a senior member but politely and she was given a down rep for that ! WTF
 
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:34 AM   #849
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Found the solution, I have disabled the rep system
 
Old 10-26-2010, 03:43 AM   #850
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Here is what I think a plain mis-use of the repute system:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...4/#post4112112

The OP disagreed with a senior member but politely and she was given a down rep for that ! WTF
Interesting, and I would have to agree, this is truly a misuse of the system. I hope Jeremy intervenes.

In fact, the one who answered was quite rude, so they are more worthy of neg rep.

EDIT: In fact, they were dismissive of the fact that NFS does have security issues, tho not quite in the way it was stated. Still, I hope Jeremy negates the negative rep, or maybe I will try.

Last edited by H_TeXMeX_H; 10-26-2010 at 03:46 AM.
 
Old 10-26-2010, 05:34 AM   #851
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Still, I hope Jeremy negates the negative rep, or maybe I will try.
Negating the negative rep is not important here, I think Mr. Garcia should give a strong talk to concerned Senior member and also check whether this is his habit ?
 
Old 10-26-2010, 07:17 AM   #852
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Who got down-repped in that thread? How do you find out?
 
Old 10-26-2010, 07:29 AM   #853
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Click on the Member's username which will take you to the profile and click on the reputation tab.
 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:28 AM   #854
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Exactly. I can think of a few members whose (often gruffly communicated) technical expertise and opinions I value enough that I would seriously consider incorporating their suggestions into my real work.
The above attitude isn't in the spirit or best interests of LQ long term however. There's a point where quality information isn't given the respect it deserves because of the way it's communicated. See OpenBSD for an extreme example of this.

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Whose presence is important to LQ? Both, actually. Who is rewarded and explicitly told "you are wanted here" under the current system? Mostly the latter, actually.
Everyone who wants to participate under the rules is "wanted here". I'd be interested to know how we're sending any other message than that.

--jeremy
 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:32 AM   #855
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I think that the rep system should represent only technical knowledge and helpfulness/friendliness of replies.
Those should indeed be the two main components, although I can see some other components legitimately coming into play. Do members think it would help if we had a FAQ entry with some general guidelines on how the system should be used (especially when it comes to negative rep)?

--jeremy
 
  


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