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Old 10-25-2010, 08:38 AM   #826
druuna
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by anishakaul View Post
That is true but if and only if the OP has not been reminded minimum 4 times before down reputing him.
I would have done the same if after 4 reminders OP refuses to mend his deeds and I would not be sorry for that.
Although I'm getting a bit tired of this, by now useless rep system discussion, I have to say (again): The rep system is not meant to educate people (grammar, tags, dumb thread titles, etc), it should reflect the technical knowledge that a user has/shows!

I just noticed I got positive rep for my opinion (post #816): WTF!!! I like yellow and I get a pos rep, I like blue and I get a negative rep? They have got to be kidding me.......

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Old 10-25-2010, 08:42 AM   #827
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The tone of a post, how far somebody goes out of her/his way to provide help, the general attitude, all of that counts in reputation. In other words, the fact that I like or don't like (rarely happens) somebody has nothing to do with her/his technical capabilities.
Exactly. I can think of a few members whose (often gruffly communicated) technical expertise and opinions I value enough that I would seriously consider incorporating their suggestions into my real work. I can also think of a number of very personable members whom I'd like to have a beer or tea with, but I wouldn't trust them with a crash-and-burn server on a segregated test network. (Sorry.)

Whose presence is important to LQ? Both, actually. Who is rewarded and explicitly told "you are wanted here" under the current system? Mostly the latter, actually.
 
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:42 AM   #828
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Hi,
Although I'm getting a bit tired of this, by now useless rep system discussion, I have to say (again): The rep system is not meant to educate people (grammar, tags, dumb thread titles, etc), it should reflect the technical knowledge that a user has/shows!
Yes, I do remember that you, I and Eric had a long discussion on this topic previously I shall also not rephrase whatever I said before in this thread WRT to the above quote
 
Old 10-25-2010, 08:47 AM   #829
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Hi,

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Okay I know these things, but simply using an quote tag instead of code tag ain't a huge crime, thats all I am saying, this can be ignored. I would have ignored that.
If you care to get feedback then the use of the vbcode tags will allow cleaner therefore easier to read posts. Just consideration to others. Maybe it's not a big deal to you but when members are reading large posts or even multiple posts it's easier to diagnosis and understand when presented in a clean manner.

We don't ignore this case!
 
Old 10-25-2010, 08:52 AM   #830
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Hi,



If you care to get feedback then the use of the vbcode tags will allow cleaner therefore easier to read posts. Just consideration to others. Maybe it's not a big deal to you but when members are reading large posts or even multiple posts it's easier to diagnosis and understand when presented in a clean manner.

If it was a huge code I would have used Code tags for sure.

Quote:
We don't ignore this case!
Well, everyone has different opinions, right?
 
Old 10-25-2010, 09:03 AM   #831
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Hi,

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If it was a huge code I would have used Code tags for sure.

Well, everyone has different opinions, right?
Not just long list or code. Things are cleaner and allow scrolling within the vbcode tagged data thus identifying type of data or quote.

It's called consideration! You have the right to choose as we have the right to ignore. Most communities work better when things are presented so others can read or understand in a clear manner. Since LQ is a world community, then to use a standard simplifies things.
Again courtesy!

 
Old 10-25-2010, 09:16 AM   #832
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by onebuck
If you care to get feedback then the use of the vbcode tags will allow cleaner therefore easier to read posts. Just consideration to others. Maybe it's not a big deal to you but when members are reading large posts or even multiple posts it's easier to diagnosis and understand when presented in a clean manner.
Quote:
Originally Posted by onebuck
It's called consideration! You have the right to choose as we have the right to ignore.
The question is not if we can/will ignore someone for whatever reason. The question is: Should the rep system be used to educate/punish people.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you on the consideration/courtesy/being social part! But using the rep system to educate/punish people is just plain wrong as discussed many times in this thread already.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 10:13 AM   #833
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I think that the rep system should represent only technical knowledge and helpfulness/friendliness of replies.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 10:18 AM   #834
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I completely disagree with anyone receiving negative rep simply for using incorrect tags. Unfortunately, there is no way to automate the system until we get Skynet online, this means that all of us are at the mercy of human beings and their many foibles. If you do think you have lost points unfairly, drop Jeremy a line (contact details in his profile) and explain what has happened and why you want to challenge it. The system will receive tweaks as and when problems arise, but people who like to down vote based on niggles will always be a problem.
 
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:23 AM   #835
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Well I think, besides the technical knowledge it is the posting quality and polite behavior of members and mods which makes LQ different from other forums.

Stubborn members who tend to defend themselves despite knowing that they are wrong should be .... to maintain the forum quality.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 10:31 AM   #836
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I think that the rep system should represent only technical knowledge and helpfulness/friendliness of replies.

I've downrepped 2 or 3 times and it was based on poor etiquette and flame baiting. I don't think it's right to down rep for a wrong answer based on good intentions, but everyone will make up their own mind. I was neither thanked or down repped, but simply reprimanded after I pointed out a member's error that was causing his problem, but not giving him the turnkey solution which no one but himself could actually do anyway. He was able to fix things with the information. I found that rude, but simply said "you're welcome." My point being that even if we are basing things off technical knowledge in a given instance, that's open to interpretation.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 11:30 AM   #837
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I've downrepped 2 or 3 times and it was based on poor etiquette and flame baiting. I don't think it's right to down rep for a wrong answer based on good intentions
I'd down rep a well-intentioned post if it can do more harm than good and the person didn't point out that it can be harmful or he isn't sure.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 12:12 PM   #838
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I absolutely will not down-rep a member. If I don't like or can't use what they have to say, I will simply ignore it. I will give rep to a helpful post for a problem I'm having - or at least a push in the right direction. To me, its the same as giving thanks. I will also put that thanks in writing in the same thread.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 12:31 PM   #839
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I absolutely will not down-rep a member. If I don't like or can't use what they have to say, I will simply ignore it. I will give rep to a helpful post for a problem I'm having - or at least a push in the right direction. To me, its the same as giving thanks. I will also put that thanks in writing in the same thread.
Well, I have decided that harmful advice, especially with malevolent intent deserves a down rep. Useless offtopic advice, may also warrant one, but so far I have not down repped for this, I am more inclined to report it.
 
Old 10-25-2010, 12:54 PM   #840
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I absolutely will not down-rep a member.
Even if they mess up someone's PC?
 
  


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